Tottenham v Arsenal - 15 September 2024

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Bluto11, Sep 9, 2024.

  1. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Serious range issues in midfield if we do that. If we're playing around with formations, maybe the right answer is a 4-2-3-1 with a midfield base of Havertz and Partey, Martinelli, Trossard, and Saka, and GJ up top.

    Or a midfield with a double pivot of Partey/Jorginho and Havertz playing close to them, with the usual front three.

    But that only works if GJ is healthy.
     
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  2. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Havertz has never really done that under Arteta, at left 8 he spends as much time in the box as Jesus. I know he played leftback for Germany that one time, but it's not really his game.

    I don't like the mobility of Partey and Jorginho when defending but I at least trust Jorginho positionally, it's kind of the best of many bad options. Unless there's a real roll of the dice with Zinny or Timber in CM.
     
  3. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair point but we sold 5 and brought in 2 (one of which is unavailable due to injury) in the midfield/ attack spots. This is not the approach a title-contending team takes.
     
  4. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought I heard he played for Brazil in WCQ, no?
     
  5. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My suggestion is effectively the same as the highlighted part above. The difference being that Havertz & GJ "double-pivot" at forward.
     
  6. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not surprisingly Mikel gave very little away in his presser, which is especially smart for this weekend's match, but he did include this...

    on Riccardo Calafiori’s availability:
    "It's another one that we have to wait another day or so."
     
  7. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Nope.

    Martinelli and Trossard also were in London.
     
  8. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Ideally would have sold Partey and bought both a 6 and an 8. But on his current wages, he wasn't going anywhere.

    The club should have seen that Partey was unmovable, let Jorginho walk and replace him with someone would could play twice a week. Would have been a bigger hit to the budget, it really seems like they were trying to break even or come close to it this summer.
     
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  9. Scally

    Scally Member+

    Aug 29, 2006
    Rep. of Ireland
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    We are saving all our money for the next summer window to take advantage of City's 30pt deduction o_O
     
  10. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    ………..Kai
    Sterling…trossard……Saka
    ……Partey….jorg
     
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  11. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Without Rice's engine and defense,, I think we're going to need to play more compact and limit the amount of running that Partey and Jorgino need to do.
     
  12. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    4-2-3-1 was my original thought, but when was the last time Mikel used that shape? And could we really trust the (lack of) pace in a Partey/Jorginho double pivot? Spuds are quick on the counter.
     
  13. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Not sure what options we have

    unless Sterling plays as a striker or martinelli and move Kai back into the midfield
     
  14. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess you assume Jesus is a nonstarter (at CF). Hard to know. But you may be right.
     
  15. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Jesus is probably playing 9 and Kai will play in Odegaard’s position.

    As long as Saka is fine, I think we will be okay tbh
     
  16. HomeatHighbury

    Mar 25, 2006
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    We are the Arsenal, and they are Spurs. Nothing to be afraid of here.
     
  17. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    I would love if we ran with a 4-2-1-3 of:
    White/Saliba/Gabi/Timber
    Jorge/Partey
    Havertz
    Saka/Sterling/Martinelli

    Have Havertz play his same role as a tall CF but have him drop in because his ball control and distribution is excellent.

    This then allows us to hit these plebs on quick counters. Havertz is great at getting the ball and putting it into space, and Saka/Sterling/Martinelli up top is far far too much pace.
     
  18. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
     
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  19. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Called it.
     
  20. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Maldini Kacurri"
    "Ismael Kabia"
    "Ayden Heaven"

    I see we're going the auto gen route to fill a bench today
     
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  21. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Stop me if you have heard this one before...Zinchenko calf injury.
     
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  22. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Morning all!

    Well well looks like a 4-2-3-1 after all?

    But if so, I wonder if #10 is Leo (as NBC thinks) not Kai.

    And Timber at LB… that’s unsurprising.
     
  23. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    That bench is dire, was the ESR money worth if we lose today and the league gets out of reach?
     
  24. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    nearly. I guess we see trossard up top and Kai

    not a bad front line with Sterling in the bench

    just worry about the legs in midfield
     
  25. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We brought in Merino.
     

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