Total Club Manager 2003 from EA

Discussion in 'Games' started by Playable Back, Sep 16, 2002.

  1. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Does anyone plan on buying this game? I know it's not CM or anything. I guess it's essentially EA's 2003 version of Football Manager 2003?
     
  2. topcow

    topcow New Member

    Nov 23, 2000
    New York
    I played the Demo, it's crap. It shows how bad the Fifa2002 engine is when it comes to strategy and team player.
     
  3. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Thanks for the tip! Is it like past FM versions? What's different about it from their past management games? I liked their past versions but still somehow got sucked into CM.
     
  4. Kronos

    Kronos Member

    Sep 11, 2002
    California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Downloaded the demo for TCM 2003. Here is what I think. I don't play TCM for the game engine. I'll just go ahead and play FIFA 2002 for that. All the features the game has, plus the game editor that will come with it will be great. And since it will be using the same game engine as in the FIFA series, all the patches that are made for FIFA will work oin TCM. All the kits, adboards, stadiums, ball,...ect. The player database in TCM is large. As soon as I get my copy, I'll update the team rosters from the MLS and sign a few in the EPL. :)

    This is the first team managing game I have played and I must say, I enjoy it. Waiting for the full version in a couple of weeks.
     
  5. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where is the downloadable demo?
     
  6. Spoon

    Spoon Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Overland Park Ks
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Spoon

    Spoon Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Overland Park Ks
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I downloaded the demo as well. Demo isn't very good but the final version which comes out today is going to be money. I am buying it.
     
  8. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Come out today? I have a nice gift cert. from Amazon and I can't decide if I should get this and/or wait for FIFA 2003.

    Let us know how it plays.
    thanks
     
  9. Kronos

    Kronos Member

    Sep 11, 2002
    California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I say get the TCM 2003 and get FIFA 2003 for Cristmas or something. :D
     
  10. BrianJ 22

    BrianJ 22 New Member

    Feb 28, 2002
    Australia
    CM rulez and still the best :D ...btw Im getting fifa 2003 :)
     
  11. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't waste your money on TCM 2003. Wait until CM4 comes out.
     
  12. eneste

    eneste Member

    Mar 24, 2000
    Pittsburgh, PA
    I have the full version of TCM 2003 and it the same as the demo. Really the feel of the game isn't that different from the older EA manager games. It's a fun game but I can tell it's going to get old quickly because it's just not very realistic. Good teams lose all the time to bad teams. Man Utd was relegated in my second season (not that I'm sad or anything) with all the current players they have. Bolton won the Premiership in the first season when they had a crap squad. I signed world class players for 2 million pounds because the AI is dumb. If you are soccer management sim addict then get it but if you are going to just buy one this year I would definitly wait for CM4 because it's going to blow TCM 2003 out of the water. The 3D game option is a gimmick. It doesn't work well and is repetitive. The scores are drastically different if you do text mode instead. One aspect that excels over CM is the youth system. You have talent scouts that bring kids in and you can build youth camps in other countries which is fun. As far as I can tell players are not regenerated in TCM like they are in CM which is also a big plus in my opinion. Anyway, it's fun but unfortuntely it's nowhere near challenging CM for the title.
     
  13. AvidSinger

    AvidSinger New Member

    Sep 6, 2002
    Massachusetts
    Anybody know what the graphics on CM4 are supposed to be like? I heard it's a 2D engine but that it looks pretty good. Anybody have any insider info?
     
  14. Marc Vaughan

    Marc Vaughan New Member

    Nov 27, 2000
    "Anybody know what the graphics on CM4 are supposed to be like?"
    We've evolved things along a fair bit and tried to improve upon the CM3 interface where possible ... think more along the lines of an 'evolution' rather than a revolution though.

    The interface is skinnable incidentally which should means some interesting variation pop-up once its released ....

    "I heard it's a 2D engine but that it looks pretty good. "
    The 2D match view is looking very good, we'll be dribbling more information out on CM4 in the near future so you'll find out more about it then.

    "Anybody have any insider info?"
    Yeah ... but unfortunately I'm not saying anything ;)

    Have Fun,

    Marc Vaughan
    (Head of Development - Sports Interactive Ltd)
     
  15. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
  16. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    FIFA 2002 and this game should be completely different. One's a sim game and one's not.
     
  17. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is TCM for US PS2 systems, or is this another Euro game only?
     
  18. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    I believe it's for PC
     
  19. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    I just read somewhere that they tried to put the '02 engine into TCM. I made another post earlier insinuating FIFA 2002 and this game had nothing in common because TCM is a sim and FIFA 2002 is not, so this is an apology.
     
  20. rmacc3ng

    rmacc3ng New Member

    Jul 18, 2001
    Winston-Salem, NC
    release date

    whats the US release date for tcm?
     
  21. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Re: release date

    It should be out already.
     
  22. rmacc3ng

    rmacc3ng New Member

    Jul 18, 2001
    Winston-Salem, NC
    in that case... anybody got a link where to buy it in the US?

    the official page has it coming from UK
    i'm not trying to pay shipping
     
  23. Kronos

    Kronos Member

    Sep 11, 2002
    California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sold state side. Go to softwarefirst.com and order it. My copy came a week after I placed the order.

    A patch from EA is needed. The game crashes on a lot of people, including me :( I have been able to go almost crash free but every now and again I get a crash. Manual saving is a must.

    CM 4, FIFA 2003 are next on the list. When is CM 4 due? FIFA 2003 is in a month or two if I am correct.
     
  24. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Marc says he's trying to have CM4 out in December some time.
    Can't wait for FIFA 2003 either.
     
  25. John T

    John T New Member

    Aug 8, 2002
    South Jersey
    When I pre-ordered CM4, I ordered TCM also. I got it a week or two ago and I'm torn.

    On the one hand, I enjoy being able to build up the club's facilities and hiring the various staff members, like stadium managers and youth coaches. I really like the game's youth player system, picking how they train and if you even want to offer them a contract.

    I think it would be nice if they had a cross of the CM and TCM interfaces when selecting your squad. I like seeing where the player I'm picking is on the field without having to switch back and forth from the 'tactics' screen. That's a minor thing, though.

    On the other hand, I hate the fact that it crashes for no good reason. I've now controlled Celtic and Halifax for two seasons each. Both times, in the off-season leading up to season three, when I've tried to sign or sell a player, it crashes. It doesn't do me much good if I can't change my squad.

    Also, the matches aren't the most realistic. If you do a 3D match, the amount of action for a '90 minute' match doesn't seem accurate. In a text mode match, there's hardly any action in most matches.

    Overall, I would suggest waiting until the patch comes out and see how much good it does. If it eliminates the major problems, then it's a decent game. Otherwise, it's not worth the time and money if you can't have a career of any decent length of time.
     

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