Discussion in 'Toronto FC' started by TopDogg, Jan 8, 2007.
no canadian tv coverage so far.....so much for the score!!!!
Dude, wtf is your problem?
No, The Score is not covering it. Neither is TSN, Sportsnet, GolTV, Fox Sports World Canada or TLN.
Why don't you rag on them?
Someone who claims to be in the know says we're taking Maurice Edu
Junior Mid. from Maryland, GenAd and 1st team all-American. He's an '86, and was behind Feilhaber, Szetela and Dalby for the 2005 WYC US squad.
Not sure how i feel about this. I kind of wanted to see both Rosenlund and Gonsalves in Toronto, figured a trade with Colorado where we trade down to 6th and pick up one of their early 2nd rounders (17th or 18th) would work out. They need a goalie to replace Cannon and Seitz would be a good candidate for 1st overall, and we get an extra pick and grab both Canucks.
Well as of right now Rosenlund isn't even officially in the draft. And I'm not entirely convinced Gonsalves will definitely be gone by the start of the third round.
I would almost rather have Seitz than Edu. The backup keeper is a big question mark and we will lose Sutton from time to time on national team duty. I don't think having a very good young backup keeper is a bad thing.
I would love to get Greg Dalby though. Maybe it's because I haven't seen Edu, but if we wound up trading down to a mid/high-first round pick (say with KC) and get a second to take Gonsalves, I'd like to get Dalby.
I guess we'll see what we can get if we trade down. That's obviously our best option. But it sounds like Edu isn't a bad plan B at all. After the expansion draft who the heck knows.
trust me i have. i have sent emails to all you mentioned above, i got replies from all but the score....they just don't care for the viewers!!!!
according to tsn sportsnet and the rest the score have the rights to MLS in Canada and they can't get involved in showing the draft!!!
So when The Score televises the SuperDraft will you send them an apology?
I think Chris Seitz would be a great grab for toronto to start off with. He is very confident in the goal and I believe he has a great future.. Edu is a great player dont get me wrong, but I think it will take him a lot longer to develop
Are there any other Canadians in the draft besides Rosenlund and Gonsalves?
Hey Hobbes you're right, Rosenlund isn't in the draft as of last night.
EPSN Top 25 by Buzz Carrick
Gonsalves ranked 9th overall...
if they broadcast it with all the nonscence running on the bottom of the screen yes i would, but that won't happen so i won't have too!!!
the sad part is the score is covering it.... i'll go watch it at a buddys house who has the us satillite system and watch ESPN coverage!!!
The one and only SuperMockDraft on USector.ca
1 overall = TorontoFC >>>>>>>>Abdus Ibrahim<<<<<<<<Toronto FC
Richard Asante Syracuse M 22 5'4 160 New York, Ontario Canada
Jeff Gonsalves Rhode Island F 20 6'0 160 Markham, Ontario Canada
Tyler Hemming Hartwick College M 21 6'0 175 London, Ontario Canada
Nigel Marples Towson D 21 6'0 165 Delta, British Columbia Canada
Riley O'Neill Kentucky F 21 6'2 Cambell River, British Columbia Canada
That's from Zman's list. Not sure what that means for the likes of: Nathan Li (Kentucky) or Rowan Anders (Dartmouth) who are seniors but aren't officially on the draft list. Mind you Anders went to the open tryout and it seemed fishy to me he could do that if he was going to get drafted a month later.
So no Rosenlund, but I've never heard anyone say definitively if a Canadian can go GenerationAdidas or not anyway. Since it was set up as an initiative for US players.
I would like Gonsalves and O'Neill in the third and fourth tomorrow and maybe we roll the dice on Marples and Assante in the supp draft, maybe not. I suspect we could just as easily just invite them to camp.
If a player is not listed (you have the 5 Canadians listed), they can not be drafted in the SuperDraft. There is a Supplemental Draft (4 rounds) that usually happens in a few weeks where some additional names of players are added to the player pool and some of the ones not drafted tomorrow (i.e. Asante, Hemming, Marples) could get selected.
What is the word in Toronto on the #1 overall pick? I would guess that the favorites are Edu-M (Maryland) or Seitz-G (Maryland) - I had Edu going in my mock draft since the D-Mid spot just has Nagamura there now. I could also see COL trading up to get Seitz and giving TOR its 1st rounder (#6 overall - Gonsalves could go here) plus some other considerations (i.e. COL has two 2nd rounders and could perhaps spare one where Toronto could draft O'Neill). Toronto still has a few open American roster spots so they are not completely tied to just drafting Canadian players.
Where do the players in the SuperDraft come from primarily? Sorry, I'm pretty new to the soccer world.
That's what I thought zman, but thanks for the confirmation. Li and Anders were never going to go Friday anyway.
I really thought Toronto would trade down, especially if Rosenlund didn't opt in, but now I really think they're going to use the pick. Johnston said that he has had "six or seven offers" for the top pick, but that he has known who he wants to pick since September and this guy has been on his radar since "January or Febuary of last year". It sounds like Mo covets this guy and won't be easily convinced to trade down. I assumed it was Edu that would go No. 1 until I read that, but since he's GenAd and there's no way of knowing if he's coming out it might be Dalby? That's my best guess. The "on my radar since last Jan/Feb" stuff has me thinking it isn't a GenAd kid. Who knows. After the Expansion Draft I've stopped even guessing.
edit: players in the SuperDraft are almost all NCAA college seniors. Players who are GenerationAdidas (it's a long story, but their salaries are exempt from the salary cap for a given amount of time) are either NCAA college players who aren't seniors or even younger players and are US citizens. I believe there are eight Generation Adidas players in the draft and the rest are college seniors from all over the world who play in the NCAA.
Here's an article I wrote for the Red Patch Boys website about the SuperDraft. Some of the links maybe might be useful to people.
MLS SuperDraft 2007--------------by Section 112 Blizzard
MLS Superdraft 2007 will be held on Friday in Indianapolis. 52 players will be selected in four rounds. TFC will have the first pick in rounds one, three and four. The second round pick was dealt to FC Dallas as part of the Ronnie O'Brien trade. Although the SuperDraft will not have as big an impact as the Expansion draft on TFC's starting lineup the performance of the players selected in 2006 suggests that the first and third round picks can be expected to see significant playing time this summer, while the fourth round pick is more of a long shot to make the grade.
The SuperDraft primarily consists of graduating NCAA players but 8 Generation Adidas players (mainly US U-20 and U-17 players) will also be up for grabs. Generation Adidas is a program run in association with the USSF and Adidas to enable early entry of promising young players into MLS. In addition to a guaranteed contract Generation Adidas players also receive grants towards their college education should their career in soccer not work out.
It should be noted that contrary to what was predicted by the Toronto MLS blogspot BC's Tyler Rosenlund has not signed a Generation Adidas contract. It will be interesting to watch Mo Johnston's strategy in this draft and whether or not he will focus on the Canadians that are available or will instead simply aim to select the best players available regardless of nationality given the fact that TFC has up to 5 youth international roster spots available in 2007 and American franchises may be reluctant to draft Canadians given the limited number of international roster spots that are available to them. Undrafted Canadian players can still be invited to training camp and signed to the development roster.
Four Canadians were invited to this week's MLS player combine in Fort Lauderdale:-
Nigel Marples , Towson University, Delta BC, Defender, 1985
Jeffrey Gonsalves University of Rhode Island, Markham, Forward, 1986
Rich Asante Syracuse University, North York, Midfielder, 1985 CSA Profile
Riley O'Neill University of Kentucky, Campbell River BC, Forward, 1985 CSA Profile
The two most highly rated Canadian prospects Jeffrey Gonsalves and Riley O'Neill did not attend due to illness. There are rumours that Mo Johnston may trade the top pick for another team's first and second picks as the player that TFC have identified as their top target is not generally expected to be selected first overall. The Generation Adidas players who appear to be most highly rated are the University of Maryland midfielder Maurice Edu and goalkeeper Chris Seitz . Soccernet and 3rddegree.net have provided detailed assessments of many of the other available players.
The SuperDraft will be shown live at noon on Friday on The Score and on the mlsnet.com website.
TFC select Maurice Edu with the 1st pick overall in the draft
TFC has traded for the LA Galaxy selection at 10th in the draft. We picked Andrew Boyens, rated 8th by 3rd Degree.
Here's the 411 on him:
"8. Andrew Boyens, defender, New Mexico 23 6'4 170 Dunedin New Zealand -- Previously ranked the best defender on the board and is now dropping down because he skipped the combine and is said to be "considering playing at home" in Australia. Is this some kind of agent-suggested negotiating tactic or does he really want to go play at home? Will someone take him anyway and try and talk him into staying?"
Geez, an overage Kiwi thinking of flying the coup. MoJo better be right considering he traded for this pick and could have taken Greg Dalby with it.
Anyone interested in watching the rest of the draft can catch it here:
uhmmmm, wtf was that!? Richard Asante in the 3rd round? C'mon Mo, no one was going to take him in the draft as an YI. Gonsalves is still sitting there...watch someone scoop him in the next few picks.
Comments from TopDrawerSoccer.net about the players at the Combine
Day One "Lightning quick, but passes were off the mark."
Day Two "Has a very good understanding of what needs to be done in the midfield. Delivers timely passes and is usually right on the money."