Torneo Juventud de America 2011- Ecuador U-20

Discussion in 'Ecuador - National Team' started by b9d23m89, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    opening this thread for anyone to share their thoughts on our NT and our performances. We are in the same group as Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, and Bolivia.

    I'll post the dates of the matches once I find them. But before that, i have one question: Does anyone know if Gol Tv is gonna air the games like they did 2 years ago?
     
  2. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Newark
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I wonder how many kids that play this tournament well be talking about in 2-3 yrs from now.
     
  3. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    http://teradeportes.com/newsv2.php?id_noticia=36747

    Marcos Caciedo, Renato Ibarra (right back from el nacional i always talk about), and Fernando Gaibor could have chances to migrate from Ecuador. Of course, depending on their performances in this tournament. The U-20 IMO has a way better team now then 2 years ago. Lots of these players are important juveniles who consistently play in their respective clubs in Ecuador.

    Like I've been sayin, from now on we're gonna see a massive migration of young kids to Ecuador.

    Speaking of which Victor Estupinan and Marlon Ganchoso's move the MLS is official. Don't know which teams yet though.
     
  4. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Gotta question is anyone can answer it:

    Does anyone know if Jonathan De La Cruz (U. Catolica) made the list? He was injured and Vizuete was holding on til the last minute but im not sure if he made it or not. Hope he does.
     
  5. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Newark
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    In El Comercio it said that he was not going to be on the list. It seems as if there is a rift (not serious) between Vizuete and FEF because they posted the list on Mon and we wanted to wait until Thu or Fri, part of the reason was that he wanted to wait for De La Cruz and see if he could've become fit. Sucks because the kid reminds me a lot of Noboa IMO.
     
  6. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Newark
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    John Narvaez, Dennys Quinonez, Mario Pineida, John Jaramillo are all guys to keep an eye on in the tournament. These are guys who can improve their stock with a good tournament.
     
  7. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I agree I'm really excited to see this squad
     
  8. Gourcuff_07

    Gourcuff_07 Member

    Sep 6, 2010
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Ive said it once and was right so Ill say it again. This u-20 team is not good enough to win it.. sure there is some good players like chala, casares, d jesus, etc... but the defense is too shaky kind of like on the senior team.

    btw they lost to imbabura and tied with the u17 national team.
     
  9. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    the defense of the U-20 does worry me, im hoping they come through. but the midfield and up is awesome. I honestly really like this team. Our defense from the past U-20 team 2 years ago wasn't that strong either. And our attacking half wasn't as strong as the one now. So i have higher hopes for this team then the past one.
     
  10. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Man, I really wish the best for this team and Vizuete, I believe Vizuete was a victim of bad luck and lack of scoring with our forwards when he coached the NT, anyway, I think this will be a very good way to judge the whole concept of having the U-20 in the field for at least 45 minutes in our first division, If I'm not mistaken "el juvenil" rule came out about 4-5 years ago, so It has been given time, we've seen a lot of good talents show off themselves at an early age because of it, But I am eager to measure our youngsters Internationally, If this generation doesn't accomplish a ticket to tthe world cup the press is going to have a field day, Like I said best of luck to these guys.
     
  11. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    the juvenile rule has helped out a lot. i hate how some commentators in ecuador don't acknowledge that.
     
  12. Ladic

    Ladic Member

    Jul 19, 2005
    Guayaquil
    Bauza is one of the biggest detractors
     
  13. BigSoccer Bot

    BigSoccer Bot I am not real.

    Feb 25, 2005
    News: Con 200 sueños rueda el Juventud de América

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    El nombre de Lionel Messi, el mejor jugador del mundo en la actualidad, empezó a sonar con más fuerza después del Suramericano juvenil que organizó y ganó Colombia en el 2005.

    Y es que en las canchas del Eje Cafetero ese muchacho de figura menudita, algo tímido, pero amable, tuvo la oportunidad de ratificar las bondades futbolísticas que a los 12 años lo habían llevado a las divisiones menores del Barcelona de España.

    Esa misma vitrina y camino que logró el mediocampista argentino y que desde 1954 han alcanzado las principales estrellas del cono sur buscarán desde hoy 200 jugadores menores de 20 años en suelo peruano, cuando se inicie el torneo continental de la categoría que tiene como ingredientes especiales la entrega de cuatro cupos para el Mundial de Colombia 2011 y dos para los Juegos Olímpicos de Londres 2012.

    El certamen, que tiene como vigente campeón a Brasil tras su título en Venezuela 2009, empezará a rodar con el clásico del río de La Plata entre Argentina y Uruguay, a partir de las 3:00 p.m. en Arequipa. Dos horas después el anfitrión, en la misma sede, probará su nivel frente a Chile. Colombia debutará mañana en Tacna ante Ecuador, a las 7:00 p.m.

    En las 24 ediciones del también llamado campeonato Juventud de América, Brasil aparece con 10 coronas, seguido por Uruguay con 7, Argentina con 4, Colombia con 2 (1987 y 2005) y Paraguay con 1. El resto de seleccionados no han tenido ese privilegio en 56 años de historia.

    Nombres para seguir
    De acuerdo con la Conmebol, entre los favoritos hay figuras para seguir, porque ya brillan en los principales clubes de sus países y en el exterior. Argentina, por ejemplo, tiene a Leonel Galeano (Independiente), Rogelio Funes Mori (River Plate) y Sergio Araújo (Boca Juniors). El técnico es Wálter Perazzo.

    Brasil guarda sus esperanzas en el delantero Neymar, "la joya del Santos", quien ya jugó con el seleccionado de mayores en recientes amistosos. El entrenador Ney Franco, sin embargo, tuvo que marginarse de la presencia de Philippe Coutinho, del Inter de Milán, lesionado. "Cualquiera de los 20 que están en Perú pueden marcar la diferencia. Son unos jugadores muy completos por lo que estoy tranquilo y confiado en que podemos cumplir con el objetivo que es ganar el Suramericano", dijo el estratega a la Conmebol.

    Leandro Cabrera (Recreativo de Huelva), Diego Polenta (Génova) y Sebastián Gallegos (Atlético de Madrid) son las cartas del técnico uruguayo Juan Verzeri.

    Ecuador apuesta a una buena figuración de la mano del volante Juan Cazares (River Plate) y Paraguay en el atacante del Udinese Miguel Medina.

    Colombia, luego de la negativa del Granada español y del Oporto para ceder a Luis Fernando Muriel y James Rodríguez, respectivamente, quienes no recibieron la autorización para viajar, presentará como figura a Michael Ortega, mediocampista del Atlas de México.

    El técnico Eduardo Lara agradeció el favoritismo de sus colegas y aunque no tiene la presión de buscar la casilla para el Mundial del que será anfitrión, antes de partir señaló que "con humildad buscaremos la clasificación par los Juegos Olímpicos, esa es la mayor motivación". De paso deberá dejar una buena imagen que ponga a soñar al país con un buen papel en la Copa Mundo.

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  14. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: News: Con 200 sueños rueda el Juventud de América

    Ecuador vs. Colombia is on right now... You can watch it on ESPN3 if you guys get that through the web.
     
  15. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Watching the U-20 and Ecuador not playing well. If these guys are the future of Ecuador soccer then they aren't that good. After De Jesus got injured (looked really really bad injury, it was a knee injury and he was even crying like crazy) Ecuador had no attacking power.

    Colombia has controlled most of the game. Ecuador passing is terrible.
     
  16. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Newark
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Ecuador as a whole didn´t play all that well. There were some players that stood out tho. I liked the kid Fuertes, the GK Jaramillo was solid, Narvaez and Quinones were okay considering CB is not their position. Casares did good when he had the ball. The problem was that Ecuador didnt have good ball movement. They tried to go one on one too much.
    Lets hope de Jesus´ injury isnt bad and Ecuador makes the neccesary adjustments. It was their first game so they were playing with nerves.
     
  17. Gourcuff_07

    Gourcuff_07 Member

    Sep 6, 2010
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    I got to admit I was surprissed with the first half. Ecuador did much better than colombia and their passes were brilliant in the first half. Second half was a disaster and Idk who said Vizuete is a good manager but honestly he is not. he had other players he could've brought in to improve in the second half. overall Cazares played well but not as good as he is capable of, Gaibor had a fantastic first half but killed it late in the second, De Jesus and Montano did well while chala didn't do anything. I think the best player on the pitch was Marcos Caicedo.
     
  18. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Marcos Caicedo was better in the first half but not the best player on the pitch IMO, he was lost during the second half. The best one in my opinion was John Narvaez who probably stood out the most for the longest period. Around the 60th minute the players began to slack and played conservative to keep the result the way it was. Its what you expect of the ecuadorian player. And like always, it comes and bites them in the ass. So the result was expected once that attitude was seen on the field from our guys.

    Marlon De Jesus is an important player to our attack. Him and Montano understand each other pretty well. The thing that sucks is that unlike past U-20 teams, this one has too many center forwards (de jesus, montano, and chala) and no one that can play a benitez or joao rojas role. it seem like the only guys that could break a defense apart were Marcos Caicedo or Juan Casares b/c no one else has those type of characteristics. At least not the guys that were up front (de jesus, montano, and chala). they are guys who are waiting to get the ball fed to them.

    I liked Penilla and little i saw from him. I'm not sure if im right but i think he plays for ESPOLI.

    What I did like about our NT: our defense. Besides the last 25 minutes of the game our defense stood out and was solid. John Narvaez is awesome. this kids been doing his thing quietly since he's been 17 in Cuenca. If only he could gain a little more muscle. Fernando Gaibor was probably the 2nd best player on the pitch that really stood out. His ball recovery was awesome. Those were by far my two favorite players.

    What do we need: a player to feed the striker. The past U-20 team had Joao Rojas. This one doesn't have someone with those characteristics. And it's not Chala, De jesus, or Montano. It's either that. or take out Ona and add in Johnathan de La cruz and play with just one defensive mid.
     
  19. BigSoccer Bot

    BigSoccer Bot I am not real.

    Feb 25, 2005
    News: Lánguido estreno juvenil

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    La reacción en la etapa complementaria con el ingreso de Andrés Escobar, luego de un pobre primer tiempo, le permitió a Colombia igualar anoche 1-1 con Ecuador en su estreno en el Suramericano sub20 que se realiza en Perú.

    El desempeño del conjunto que orienta Eduardo Lara dejó muchas dudas, pues lució lejos del nivel que se espera de él de cara al Mundial y en su misión de alcanzar un cupo para los Juegos Olímpicos de Londres-2012.

    El equipo ecuatoriano se fue en ventaja con un penalti anotado por Juan Cazares, a los 30 minutos, pero luego perdió la brújula y permitió la paridad por intermedio de Edwin Cardona, también de pena máxima, a los 70 minutos, tras una falta que le cometieron a Escobar.

    "Terminamos con un sinsabor, porque en el segundo período hicimos méritos para ganar el partido. Al comienzo cada uno de los jugadores quiso hacer lo suyo, pero después nos juntamos mejor y dominamos al rival", expresó Escobar quien intentó justificar el resultado en el desempeño arbitral que, en realidad, fue bueno.

    Cardona, por su parte, asumió el 1-1 como algo normal en el fútbol: "esta vez nos tocó empatar y ahora hay que pensar en la revancha del jueves cuando nos enfrentaremos a Brasil", actual campeón.

    El estreno colombiano resultó discreto, porque primó el individualismo al trabajo colectivo y ahora muchos se preguntan dónde quedó el año y medio de preparación.

    Aunque fue el comienzo y se espera que en lo que resta del torneo la escuadra nacional reaccione, Cardona pronosticó que el duelo que viene será más complicado y Colombia está en la obligación de sumar.

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  20. Kr0nika R0ja

    Kr0nika R0ja Member

    Oct 6, 2010
    Big Apple
    Club:
    Deportivo Cuenca
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Saw the game last night, I wasn't "super impressed". The 1st half Ecuador pulled out sum miracles. 2nd Half they just lost it. I never seen Casares play but by the little I saw I was impressed by him, he has that keen eye for play making, definitely deserves the #10 shirt. Not beeing a Cuenca fan or nuthin but Narvaez did a great job as a Centerback last night, Jaramillo didn't have much work from what I saw but I was kinda disappointed on the penalty, like he just "guessed" where it was going, seeing as he should be getting advice from Pepe Pancho, I think he will develop even more. I hope De Jesus Injury isn't realy serious, from the little I saw he was doin good. Overall I'm meh on the game, but if they would have kept the rhythm of the 1st half going, I'm sure they could have pulled a win.
     
  21. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Newark
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    You make good points man, the defense was pretty solid, it didnt cost us the game like we thought it might. On the penalty Ibarra conceded, it wasnt his fault. If he didnt foul, the player had an easy shot. Like I siad Narvaez was solid, but the one who impressed me most was Fuertes. He was a rock.
    In the second half, I kept screaming at Vizuete to put in de la Cruz so we can get some ball movement, he wasnt even in the subs list. Caicedo dissapeared in the second and most of the players looked tired.
     
  22. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I hope Marlon De Jesus isn't injured b/c if that happens then i'll lose all hope up front. Montano and Chala can't do sh*t together and I don't blame them. Vizuete's gonna have to add in another guy who can push up the ball to our two guys up front. I'm still expecting more from Cazares next game.

    we have players like Paul Minda and Johnathan De La Cruz to help out. Vizuete made a mistake by not making changes til the end of the game. He's notorious for that crap.
     
  23. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    according to Maldonado is not a ligament injury after the tests they had on Marlon, the teams doctor confirmed is not a ligament injury and as of now he is "probable" for Paraguay's game, worst case scenario he'll be back for the third game.
     
  24. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I'd let him play the 3rd game and not risk it
     

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