Top 5 run sports franchises

Discussion in 'MLS: Expansion' started by ragin, May 2, 2003.

  1. ragin

    ragin New Member

    Sep 8, 2000
    Street and Smith's Sports Business Journal recently named the 5 best run sports franchises in the world. So who were the top 5?

    Green Bay Packers
    Los Angeles Lakers
    New York Yankees
    Manchester United
    ROCHESTER RHINOS


    It seems to me that MLS could learn a thing or two from the Rhinos and would be stupid not to let them into the league. The smart business decision for MLS, would be to give Rochester a team.
     
  2. gswitatrophy

    gswitatrophy Member

    Jan 16, 2003
    Tillamook, Oregon
    how did they come up with these results?
     
  3. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    there was an article in the rochester paper on it.

    also at the rhino site--

    The Rochester Raging Rhinos have announced today that they have been selected as the one of the five best run sports franchises by Street & Smith’s Sports Business Journal.

    In their fifth anniversary issue published this week Street & Smith’s Sports Business Journal selected best and worst from a number of different sports categories. The Rhinos were selected along with the Green Bay Packers (National Football League), Los Angeles Lakers (National Basketball Association), Manchester United (English Premier League Soccer) and the New York Yankees (Major League Baseball) and one of the five best run sports franchises.
    read more here-
    http://www.rhinossoccer.com/
     
  4. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would guess it has something to do with a combination of on field success while not outspending revenue over the long term.
     
  5. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    OK, Real Madrid is the best sports team in the world. They have the best management considering that they pulled themselves out of almost financial diasaster and now they dominate. Madrid is the best.
     
  6. MadridForever

    MadridForever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 29, 2001
    Madrid, Spain
    The Real Madrid for its history is the Soccer club with more supporters. In a recent study about that, the result was that the RM have 80 million supporters around the world. The problem was that until the last years the team hadn't taken advantage of that. Now the things have changed and the team is, financially speaking, every year more near of the Manchester United.
     
  7. Wallydrag

    Wallydrag BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 24, 2002
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you see this in the same list of 5 things?

    5 biggest myths

    If you build it, they will come.

    Professional soccer will be huge in America.

    Baseball is America’s pastime.

    Only hillbillies like NASCAR.

    Going NCAA Division I-A will solve your money problems.
     
  8. Beakmon FC

    Beakmon FC Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Jan 10, 2002
    The OC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd love to see the actual article. It looks to me like S&S chose one team each from the Big Three US leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA), an internation club (Man Utd) and a highly-successful minor-league operation...

    As for Real Madrid's success, didn't they get some sort debt forgiveness (or something like that) a few years back? Some sort of quasi-governmental intervention..........
     
  9. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gotta register but here you go:
    Top 5 Best Run Sports Franchises

    One funny thing to consider is that the Rhinos are so limited in their current stadium deal:
    50 cents out of 5 bucks on parking.
    5% of gross profits on concessions.
    zippo on permanent signage advertising.
    zippo on suite rentals.
     
  10. MadridForever

    MadridForever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 29, 2001
    Madrid, Spain
    They haven't debt forgiveness. The Real sold its training grounds in the center of the city (very expensive area) to the Madrid council. The Madrid council will build in that grounds a olimpic arena (for madrid 2012 Olimpic candidature) and 4 offices buildings (50 floors each one). The Real Madrid made a good business selling, and the Madrid council will make a big money with the office buildings. Now the Real Madrid will build its new training area outside the city. All That happened in november 2000.

    In november of 2000 the Real Madrid had already won 8 of its 9 champions leagues and 2 of its 3 Intercontinental cups. In both competitions the team with more trophies. The second is the Milan with 5 and 3.
     
  11. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    If the Rhinos were to be an MLS team then they would have to change their entire structure. Its better for them to have the freedom to do things the way they want to. If the Rhinos were to join MLS it will only sink them into the top 10 WORST ran teams. It will make no difference to MLS if they joined or not if they need to comply with the SEM rules.
     
  12. MD_05

    MD_05 New Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    Ohio
    It seems to me that the Rhinos are completely disregarding $ as they are trying to get into the league. They will surely get less money for however long they are under the SEM structure. We should be happy if they come into our league as they are helping the game and sacrificing some money of their own.
     
  13. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Top 5 run sports franchises

    After all we went thru i hate to say it, but i agree with you , I had this exact same sentiments posted before in the expansion thread.

    here is the link to the story
    :http://www.democratandchronicle.com/sports/columns/0501story1_columns.shtml

    a quote
    "May 1, 2003) — What do the Rochester Raging Rhinos have in common with the New York Yankees, Manchester United, Green Bay Packers and Los Angeles Lakers?

    According to Street & Smith’s SportsBusiness Journal’s fifth anniversary issue, they are the five “best-run sports franchises in the world.”

    The publication noted, “Sure, it’s minor league soccer, but the Rhinos average 10,000-plus a game and are building only the third professional soccer-only facility in the U.S.” "
     
  14. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Top 5 run sports franchises

    It doesn't look as though Rochester is in any hurry to join MLS. The Soccer Fanatics radio show recently interviewed Frank DuRoss, the owner/president of the Rhinos:


    (excerpt)

    Soccer Fanatics radio show:

    "Is it at the point now where you're saying when you're going to MLS rather than if?"

    DuRoss:

    "I don't know if I want to say that yet. You know with the increased viability of the A League we're pretty confident that the A League's going to be around for a long time. We like things that are happening in the A League, and if we stay in the A League that's certainly not a bad thing either.

    The last thing we want to do is jump into MLS and say we're an MLS team and end up losing a lot of money or spending a lot of money, whereas with the soccer specific stadium we're pretty confident we'll be a pretty successful A League team."


    http://www.soccerfanaticsradio.com/
     
  15. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: Top 5 run sports franchises

    I do belive the A-league is here to stay and grow, and other teams may follow into the Rhinos footsteps, if they become successful they might some day challange MLS both on and off the field.
    Once in their new stadiums the Rhinos will be a challange to any soccer team in USA .
     
  16. ED Fajardo

    ED Fajardo New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Fairfax,VA
    Madrid may be the best soccer team in the world, but in terms of fiscal responsibility, they're one of the worst. Remenber; it was just two years ago that they were 250 million dollars in debt and had to sell off some of their property, including their practice field, to dig themselves out.
     
  17. Fireball_Dan

    Fireball_Dan New Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Palos Park, IL
    I wonder how some of the Chicago teams did.
     
  18. WVKeeper

    WVKeeper Member

    Jun 20, 2002
    Charlotte Suburbs, SC
    Club:
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Top 5 run sports franchises

    Do I smell a A-League/MLS merger ala AFL/NFL????
     
  19. cafrine

    cafrine New Member

    Oct 13, 2002
    is GONE
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Top 5 run sports franchises

    No, you just need to take a shower again.
     

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