Top 20 FSU clubs

Discussion in 'Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, & the former Soviet Repu' started by goliath74, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    I know we've done this a lot. However, we never really updated any such lists throughout a season.

    Here's my first try:

    1. Zenit St. Peterburg
    2. Shakhtar Donetsk
    3. Dynamo Kyiv
    4. CSKA Moskva
    5. Rubin Kazan
    6. Dnipro Dnipropetrivsk
    7. Spartak Nalchik
    8. BATE Barisau
    9. Metalist Kharkiv
    10. Lokomotiv Moskva
    11. FK Rostov
    12. Dinamo Tbilisi
    13. Tom Tomsk
    14. Karpaty Lviv
    15. Spartak Moskva
    16. Dinamo Moskva
    17. Terek Grozny
    18. Arsenal Kyiv
    19. Saturn Mosk. Obl.
    20. Anzhi Makhachkala

    P.S. I really thought Vorskla should have been 20th but their season only started, while Anzhi had been very decent in the last 5-6 matches, Next week, however, if they achieve similar results, Vorskla will replace Anzhi

    What does everyone think of this table?
     
  2. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Were your rankings based on something?
     
  3. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    BATE ? Stop overrating these guys. Tbilisi's better than Spartak and Dinamo ? C'mon now.
     
  4. Hopper10

    Hopper10 Member

    Oct 1, 2009
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Arsenal Kyiv and not Metalurg Donetsk? or Tavriya? I'm with Yasik, what did you base this on?
     
  5. LokomotivZee

    LokomotivZee Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    KC
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How do you put Spartak behind Loko? I like it, but Spartak is a CL side only 2 points back of Loko, and the defending runners-up, while Loko is a perennial disappointment.
     
  6. Devioux

    Devioux New Member

    May 6, 2010
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Is this based on the domestic league seasons for this year?
     
  7. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    For the RPL sides, this is based in a very large part on the RPL seasono, which has reached the equator. obviously, it is much harder to the current season for the UPL, so I looked at individual results more than the standings.

    Ultimately, this table is based on my opinion. I was hoping to solicit others' opinion on which teams they rank in the top 20 and where, not what everyone thinks of my top 20 list (even though, I am realizing, it is not apparent from my post).
     
  8. Drake44444

    Drake44444 Member

    Jul 5, 2008
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saturn and anzhi shouldn't be on any list- better off cutting this to top 18
     
  9. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Loko and Spartak are stronger than Dnipro.
     
  10. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    They'd beat some of the teams on his list.


    Everyone let's laugh at goliath's list.
     
  11. Devioux

    Devioux New Member

    May 6, 2010
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Can we get some kinda basis for making a list rather than just opinion
     
  12. Hopper10

    Hopper10 Member

    Oct 1, 2009
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Well, we already have a list based on European results called UEFA coefficients, so this would have to be based on domestic results to be different.
     
  13. Devioux

    Devioux New Member

    May 6, 2010
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Yeah but thats over a span of 5 years and isn't the best rating system for judging which club is better than the other if you take a look at the formula
     
  14. Drake44444

    Drake44444 Member

    Jul 5, 2008
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Top 5 is good except Rubin can be ahead of dk. 2x Russian champ and ahead of dk in same cl group
     
  15. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    I seriously doubt that.
     
  16. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Since these clubs don't play each other and many of these do not even go to the UEFA competitions, all we've got is an opinion.
     
  17. Devioux

    Devioux New Member

    May 6, 2010
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    At least something like results vs the top teams in each division and for the top team results in europe
     
  18. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Ha, why ? Dnipro just lost to a shit side from Serbia and doesn't Klinichenko still start for them ?
     
  19. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Kalynychenko starts once in a while. Most of the time he's a substitute.

    Secondly, didn't Spartak just go on a THREE game losing streak? (including a THRASHING they took from Alania)

    Besides, Dnipro are leading the UPL right now. Certainly not a bad start.
     
  20. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    So Dnipro would be favored over Loko and Spartak over two legs ? Only you and some Ukrainian fans would think that.
     
  21. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Dnipro looks very impressive right now. Spartak and Loko look downright poor.
    In fact, Dynamo Kyiv might or might not be the favorites over Dnipro based on domestic form.
     
  22. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't say I agree with it, but I like it!
     
  23. LokomotivZee

    LokomotivZee Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    KC
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Surely Dinamo Minsk sneak into the top 20 with their most glorious win today?
     
  24. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    You know, they just might. Another thing is, in the unlikely event of Qarabag making it past Borussia, they should be there as well.
     
  25. stzenit

    stzenit New Member

    Nov 7, 2008
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    I catch a fair chunk of Russian and Ukrainian Premier League matches
    Would rather we split it into categories than who is individually better
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    Zenit/Shakhtar
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    CSKA/Dynamo Kiev/Rubin
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    Dnipro Dnipropetrivsk/Loko/Spartak/Metalist Kharkiv/Nalchik/Rostov
     

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