Tony Blair wanted to step down

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by verybdog, Jul 11, 2004.

  1. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3882077.stm

    "Colleagues of Tony Blair have insisted he will stay on as prime minister despite indications that he considered stepping down last month.
    On Saturday morning, the BBC learned that four cabinet ministers were so concerned he may quit that they personally urged him to stay. "

    Of course these colleagues of Tony Blair are selfish. All they think about now is power, power, power.

    But Tony Blair is sick of lying, lying, and lying. Lying to support Bush damages his conscience and his health.

    Tony, Lying causes cancer. Quit and go home! That would be good for your mental health.
     
  2. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

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  3. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    Ben, you are fired for being obnoxious!
     
  4. JoeBloggs

    JoeBloggs New Member

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    Who would you suggest to replace him? Gordon? Then who would do such a good job of running the economy.
     
  5. Rick B

    Rick B Member

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    Oh come now, thats easy. David Blunkett - he's done wonders with asylum numbers........ , but then again, it ould be no different as Brown's been blind to the failings of his policies!! :D
     
  6. Rick B

    Rick B Member

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    Er no. Blair is a smary arsehole, who has lied since the day he blagged his way into power. And as for conscience don't get me started. Stick to talking about US politics, you might have more knowledge in that field.
     
  7. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    Don't count on it.
     
  8. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    Blair goes. Labour is toast.
     
  9. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
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    Much as I would love this to happen, being a card carrying member of the Conservitive Party, unfortunatly it won't if Brown takes over. Nobody trusts Blair, but they do trust Brown. He will have a term in office before the Conservatives take power again.
     
  10. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
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    Jan 15, 2004
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    I doubt Tony Blair was really considering stepping down. He's way too far up his own arse for that.

    The sooner that pathetic, smarmy little weasel gets out of office the better. Could you imagine Gordon Brown pandering to Dubya just to get in his little, 'Crazy Christian', good books?

    Tony won't go until it is impossible for him to stay though.
     
  11. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    That certainly is the typical interpretation from a British conservative. But from the view point of the left, Tony Blair is still a sucker. He sucks on whomever who lives in the White House, be it republican or be it a democrat.

    The best sucker of the century from Britain. He sucks.
     
  12. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    A Scot? Your bloody joking.

    If Blair were to go, "Old Labour" would no doubt attempt to take over the party once again.
     
  13. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
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    Jan 15, 2004
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    Hey, chin, who asked for a bloody canuck's opinion?

    Come back when you grasp the concept of apostraphes.
     
  14. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
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    Jan 15, 2004
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    He didn't suck up to Clinton.
     
  15. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
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    Jan 15, 2004
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    p.s. Tony Blair is Scottish, you absolute dumb fcuk!
     
  16. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    Doesn't act like one. Raised and educated largely in England and represents an English constituency.

    Maybe that Scottish blood is why he's so hated. :D
     
  17. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
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    Jan 15, 2004
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    Educated in Scotland as well as born there actually.

    Yeah, Scots are so poor in politics, is that why the two most powerful men in the country are Scots? Who's the highest Englishman? John Prescott!
     
  18. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    Blair had and English father and Irish mother.
     
  19. Silvio Dante

    Silvio Dante Red Card

    May 22, 2004
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    And you still support the Stalinist Despot in Zimbabwe???? Strange indeed.

    Blair will hand over the reigns to Brown before the next election and Labour will stroll through once again.

    However America don't expect Brown to roll over for you like Maggie, Major and Blair did....
     
  20. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
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    Although you wound me up at first (mainly because I actually thought you were serious in your ramblings), I now just have a laugh when you write.

    a) I don't support Mugabe in Zimbabwe. Actually completly the opposite, but thats life. I just said to you that not all you read in the paper actually happens. And I know a dam sight more about it than you do.

    b) Labour won't 'stroll' through. Any 8 year old who can read would understand that the next election is going to be very close. I personally think Labour will win, but I know that will be the end of them for another 20 years afterwards.

    c) Now who is being silly? You will find fortunatly/unfortunatly depending on your standpoint, that Brown is just as much pro-America as Blair is. It seems it's the only thing they actually agree on.
     
  21. Rick B

    Rick B Member

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    And that just shows why we should all be ashamed to have Labour in power................. :D
     
  22. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Contrary to what others might think currently Labour will stroll (though with a limp) through again whoever is in power - you could put Blunkett in charge and they'd win. Why? Have you seen the opposition?
    The Tories have their best and most promising leader since ermmm...Maggie. And even he has the "the Poll tax is really quite a good tax" problem tag to deal with (amongst others). He was one of Maggie's lackeys and everyone knows that - getting into power isn't going to happen anytime soon for the Tories and Howard.

    Blair will certainly be staying on past the next election. Putting aside the lacklustre list of pretenders to the throne - only Brown has a slight chance and frankly, no-one likes him. As much as the public dislike Blair's trickery etc, a lot of them are still under the Blair influence and no-one like a Chancellor. It still makes no sense to replace Blair with Brown. As I said, putting aside all that - he wants to go into the history books. Maggie stayed in for 3 terms and 11 years - I have a feeling he'll want to at least equal that. He got into power in 1997 - I reckon we've got at least another 4 years of him, if not more.
     
  23. Rick B

    Rick B Member

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    I think maybe your about 2 years out on public opinion and forgetting the last local election results not to mention the European Election results. The conservatives are now at their strongest since 1995 (yes I know that Labour won in '97 but everyone knew they would do from 1995). The local elections were a supurb result from the Conservative viewpoint.
    Re Howard, yes he has had to live up to some bad policy decision in the 80's. But they were different times economically, people understand times change. At the moment this country has the biggst personal debt crisis in Europe. Not to mention the riddiculous £38 Billion overspending by the government. People are not fooled by Labour anymore. Especially if we have another couple of interest rate rises. Then people will turn to the Conservatives to get them out of trouble (again).
     
  24. "Right Wing Wacko"

    "Right Wing Wacko" New Member

    Apr 29, 2004
    England
    What's this got to do with government?


    This sums up his egomania quite nicely, he's the British Bill Clinton in almost every regard other than raping women.

    Conservatives vs New Labour? Who cares, little discernable difference nowadays.
     
  25. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Some perspective is needed when looking at Conservative success. The Euros and local elections do mean the Labour stranglehold is slackening off but by no means are they an indicator that the next General Election will be as close as some think it might be.
    UKIP had an amazing surge in popularity from last time too - they won't be doing much either when it comes tot he crunch.

    People have long memories and fanakly Labour will have to bugger it up considerably more than they already have done to allow the Tories a chance. No way this time round, perhaps next time in 2010 or 11 whenever it's going to be.
    Indeed people aren't fooled by Labour (or Tony) to the same degree as they used to be - but the general public know that they neither want the Tories back in power (Maggie and her unemployment figures give enough people bad flashbacks) nor do they want a different leader in charge. As much as people hate the way Tony was into spin etc and as such should be looking for substance over style - they won't. They can't help it because it's subconscious and the majority of peope in this country are a bit dim to these sorts of things - therefore Tony is the mostly smiling face they all know - having Brown lead the Government isn't an option the public will go for.
     

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