Tony Adams wanted Cooper for Wycombe

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Mar 25, 2004.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Former Arsenal/England star Tony Adams, now manager of Wycombe Wanderers, apparently recently tried and failed to get Kenny Cooper on loan from Man U. Presumably it's good news for Kenny that the club decided not to let him go.

    "WANDERERS have failed with a move for Manchester United striker Kenny Cooper ahead of tomorrow's derby at home to QPR. Ambitious Blues boss Tony Adams swopped for the American-born hitman this week but was rebuffed by Old Trafford chief Sir Alex Ferguson, who wants to keep his 19-year-old starlet in house."
    http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/spo...ar.472201.0.match_preview_wanderers_v_qpr.php

    That's from last Friday.

    "Adams may go back in the summer to continue talks to bring the 6'3" player to Wycombe."
    http://www.chairboys.ndirect.co.uk/onthenet/latest.htm

    Wycombe is currently at the bottom of D2 and looks pretty likely to go down. I'd like to think that United have bigger plans for Cooper than letting him play in D3 next season, but I guess one never knows how these things will pan out. At any rate, it would seem high praise for Cooper that Adams would single him out.
     
  2. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well John Stead began the season in D3 and is now scoring at Blackburn.If Kenny does the business in D3 he will get a chance-possibly quicker than if stays at Old Trafford.
     
  3. j&bontherock

    j&bontherock BigSoccer Supporter

    talking about this guy, why other people discover a great player in US ahead of Bruce Arena ? don't you think we should be the one who discover any good player first and sell them to the clubs ?
     
  4. AEK

    AEK Member

    Apr 7, 2000
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I for one hope he stays put.
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which metaphor should I use here? Opening a can of worms? Or picking at a scab? :)
     
  6. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Couldn't agree more. I'm sick and tired of Arena doing things like preparing for friendlies, World Cup Qualifying, training the first team, scouting competition, monitoring professional players in our playing pool etc etc. He should spend more time scouting Dallas area highschool games.

    Kenny wasn't "discovered" by ManU. He was "discovered" by friends of the family who had connections at ManU.
     
  7. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How dare people question BA's player selections? Having Donovan replaced by Klein is nothing short of genious!
     
  8. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    It also should be noted that David Beckham got his chance after playing in the Third Division for Preston North End in season 93/94.
     
  9. strider026

    strider026 New Member

    Aug 7, 2002
    Huh
    I thought Beckham came up through Man. U. Did he get loaned out for that one season and then back to Man??
     
  10. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I don't disagree that getting regular first-team time in D3 is better than regular first-team time with Man U's under-19s. It's probably also better than getting occasional first-team time with Man U's reserves. The next step up, should he stay at Man U next season, would logically be 1) a regular place in the reserves' starting lineup and 2) potentially bench time and appearances with the first team, not to mention regular first-team training. Whether that is better than a year of D3 play can probably be argued ad nauseum.
     
  11. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    He played about half a season on loan to PNE.
     
  12. IMOX77

    IMOX77 New Member

    Jun 15, 2003
    Long Island, NY
    You do not think that he should have been discovered by one of our national team programs?? He should have been in our under-20 player pool, forward was one of our weakest positions on that team. The under-20 team starts lookin for players 2 years before the world champioship and in took a contract from Man Utd for him to get on the radar. Something is wrong. SMU did not miss him, he has trainded with the Dallas Burn, You gotta blame someone. If not Arena someone is to blame for missing this kid
     
  13. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I am not sure why there has to be blame since he has so far done exactly nothing. Someone wants him for a low division team? Fine.
     
  14. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    He was very close to the u-20 team. Somebody else got picked over him. Please give it up. 19 is too young an age to be having these kind of quibbles. There is nothing harder than figuring out who will be a great player. And our forwards weren't bad there were just better forwards in the tournament. There are a lot of good forwards in world youth tournaments. Don't forget, he has a EU passport which makes it a lot easier for him to be in ManU.
     
  15. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah, he had something like 6 league appearances and a handful of cup games.
     
  16. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, Eddie Lewis really is poor mans Beckham in more ways than one.
     
  17. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Hey guys - let's leave the "how did we miss Cooper?" discussion on the USA boards. There are at least a couple of threads where this topic can be rehashed currently. Not really relevant to Yanks Abroad. Thanks.
     
  18. Captain Splarg

    Apr 25, 1999
    Pacific Grove, CA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teddy Sheringham never really got much of a look in the first team until he went on loan to Djurgården... That was about 300 goals ago....
     
  19. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Oh, no!!!! Cooper playing in English D3! Will this be like playing in German BL4? I heard that we get better high school matches here than these low level competitions in Europe. Cooper, our latest teenage sensation, should really return to sunny Texas to play for the Dallas Burn.
     
  20. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Now that's what I call irony.
     
  21. R&DFC

    R&DFC Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    England
    Yes Beckham did go on loan to Preston before breaking into the first team, this is common practice other here in England as it shows what the players can do against more experienced players. It is actually quite supprising that Utd didn't let Cooper go to Wycombe as he's no where near the first team yet.
     
  22. JohnW

    JohnW Member

    Apr 27, 2001
    St. Paul
    Welcome to bigsoccer.

    Just to get you up to speed a bit. Around here any player who has visited Europe--heck, even if you have a passport--deserves to be called into camp for the U.S. nats. That goes double for someone playing with the ManU reserves. In fact, the word is that in the next European friendly (vs. Poland), we're going to field an all-England reserve squad.

    P.S. That's supposed to "ironical."
     
  23. R&DFC

    R&DFC Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    England
    Thanks for the welcome.

    I don't know much about MLS but and I can tell you how US Players are doing in the UK and how the English game works in exchange for a complete MLS education lol.
     
  24. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    I thought Cooper has been playing fairly steady in the reserves. Maybe I am wrong. Have you seen him play?
     
  25. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first rule of MLS is...

    there are no rules

    and we have Freddy
     

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