To All Dallas Fans who said MLS is a joke

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by okcomputer, Apr 22, 2004.

  1. okcomputer

    okcomputer Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    dc
  2. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Yeah, except that the Chargers still have the ability to make a decision. They can keep the pick and pick someone else (like we would have liked to have done with Chad Marshall) or they can trade the pick to New York for terms that the two teams decide on. Whatever happens in this situation, I will bet you one year's worth of Adu's wages that the NFL won't make the decision for San Diego.
     
  3. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apples and oranges
     
  4. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And done before by John Elway.
     
  5. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only if you are a fool.

    Unless of course NFLHQ:

    1. Takes San Diego's pick away and gives it to NYG
    2. Allows NYG to sign Manning
    3. Have Manning NOT count on the NYG regular roster
    4. Have his salary NOT count against the NYG cap

    Then

    5. NFLHQ does not replace the pick they took away and San Diego's next pick is their second natural pick which is now their first because their original first pick was taken away.
    6. San Diego are then allowed to go find a high-level / high-salary player but can't sign him because all their internation slots are filled and they don't have any cap room and the season is going to start shortly.

    Then maybe it would be familiar.
     
  6. okcomputer

    okcomputer Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    dc
    waaa!!!!! Crying like babies.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As someone who has frequently given Burn fans a hard time over this issue, let me just say, bad comparison.
     
  8. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    but OK Computer was an incredible album. :)
     
  10. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Well it's not our fault that your comparison was faulty.

    Oh, wait, you meant. Never mind.
     
  11. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    It is. Adu is a 15 year old boy. Should he be pulled away from his family at 15? Eli is an adult who has already lived on his own at college for many year.
     
  12. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who's crying? One person laid out the reasons why it's a bad comparison and - even as a DC fan - I say he's 100 percent correct. The Adu situation is nothing like this, and Dallas should have gotten more.

    Don't blame us because you can't tell the diifference.
     
  13. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    He's certainly not acting like an adult. Of course, San Diego has a history of drafting "can't-miss" quarterbacks who turn out to be basket cases, so Eli seems right down their alley.
     
  14. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope this doesn't go down. And how mature Eli is may be up for question.
     
  15. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One difference:

    At least for public consumption the San Diego GM told Archie, "Thank you very much. We will do what we think is in the interest of our team."

    Don't remember anyone in the Dallas hierarchy having the guts to make any noises like that.
     
  16. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Do you think if somebody had, that Freddy Adu would be playing for the Dallas Burn today?
     
  17. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I also don't recall any "I will only play for DC" pronouncements from the Adu household.

    Oh, wait, they didn't have to say that. Everybody here just pronounced that it was a fact "Adu won't play for anyone but DC," when it was more likely that any preliminary discussions probably started with all sides figuring out that it made good sense to keep Freddy in his comfort zone. Sucks to be Dallas, I grant you.

    This whole Eli thing is kind of surprising to me - I didn't peg him as the type to pull an Elway. But many of those who called Elway a spoiled brat in 1983 were calling him a great guy who really, really deserved a Super Bowl ring by 1997.
     
  18. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    I seem to remember different. I'm pretty sure Amelia wouldn't let Freddy play anywhere but close to home, at least not while he was 14 going on 15.

    I'm sure Freddy's comfort zone was a major factor also. As you have pointed out to many people (quite correctly), he's very good, but he's also 14.

    I like Eli more than I like his brother, but that isn't saying much.
     
  19. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You may be right, but the point I was trying to make is that I'm guessing MLS came to that conclusion without someone having to issue a statement to the press to that effect, as Condon did re: Eli.
     
  20. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Totally agree
     
  21. Cantankerous

    Cantankerous New Member

    Apr 15, 2003
    United country
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think this has more to do with the differing structures of the NFL and MLS than the 'guts' of any GM
     
  22. okcomputer

    okcomputer Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    dc
    Maybe Eli just wants to play for a good organization that is committed to winning. Nobody ever labeled San Diego an organization committed to winning. As far as me posting this article, I did it because many Burn fans on these boards kept saying in a "real" league this would never have happened. While ,I agree Dallas got the short end of the stick on the deal, I think you should have gotten the number 2 pick(Marshall) and MLS should have made a special 11th pick in round 1 for you. The top player in drafts have leverage. I could post a similar link about Eric Lindros in the 1992 NHL Draft. He did the same thing. This stuff does happens in other leagues.
     
  23. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not into alternative universes.

    But I do think that Dallas rolled over by not even making a show of resistance to this. What if they had simply said, we're drafting who we feel will help our club. If you want us to do otherwise, DC, make us an offer. We can always draft Freddy and trade him to you if you make it worth our while.

    Or, they could have shopped around the number one pick to other teams. Maybe one of them could have given them more if they thought they could bring/charm Freddy to NY or Chi or LA.

    Or, they could have kept their moths shut, used the No.1 pick on somebody else, and dumped the whole Freddy problem in Columbus' lap, giving Crew 15 minutes to figure out what to do. That would have been the most fun.

    And it would have taken a lot of guts.
     
  24. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Those are all decent points, except I don't believe there's a chance on earth, in heaven or in hell that Amelia Adu would let her 14 year old son play anywhere but DC.

    EDITED to say we can debate whether or not Dallas should have tried to get more in exchange for the first pick, but I don't think it's productive to debate whether Freddy would be playing in Dallas if they hadn't given it up, because I don't think that was ever going to happen.
     
  25. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Players demand/express a preference in every league. The league doesn't machinate
    that change in every league.

    You're mistaking human behavior for organizational hanky-panky.
     

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