Alert: Three Little Points | US v Jamaica | 2022 CONCACAF World Cup Qualifying Match 8 - 11/16/21

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What will be the result of the US-Jamaica match on 11/16/21?

Poll closed Nov 16, 2021.
  1. US wins by two or more goals

    58.3%
  2. US wins by one goal

    33.3%
  3. Canadian Win (née Tie)

    4.2%
  4. US loses by one goal

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Gregg Berhalter Disasterclass (aka US loses by two or more goals)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. RePepi Performance - Ricardo Pepi scores 2 goals and the US wins (worth 2 points!!)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. "Winning isn't everything; making really detailed PowerPoint presentations is. '" - Gregg Berhalter

    4.2%
  1. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    United States vs Jamaica

    2022 FIFA World Cup qualification – CONCACAF Third Round
    Tuesday, November 16, 5:00 PM
    Independence Park, Kingston, Jamaica

    Kickoff: 5:00 PM (per majorleaguesoccersoccerdotcom)

    Broadcast: Paramount+, Universo

    Vitals (Last 5):
    United States
    4W-1L-0D | 10 GF / 3 GA / 7 GD

    Jamaica
    1W-1L-3D | 4 GF / 4 GA / 0 GD

    Goal Leaders (Current round):
    United States
    Ricardo Pepi - 3
    Brenden Aaronson - 2
    Sergiño Dest - 1
    Sebastian Lletget - 1
    Weston McKennie - 1
    Christian Pulisic - 1
    Antonee Robinson - 1
    Own Goal - 1

    Jamaica
    Shamar Nicholson - 2
    Michail Antonio - 1
    Jamaica Oniel Fisher - 1
    Jamaica Kemar Roofe - 1

    Head-to-Head Record:
    United States vs Jamaica
    19W-3L-8D

    US Goals - 51
    Jamaica Goals - 19
    Goal Difference - +32 US

    Previous Meeting:
    2022 FIFA World Cup Qualification – CONCACAF Third Round
    October 7, 2021 @ Q2 Stadium, Austin, Texas
    United States 2-0 Jamaica

    Notes:
    Let's get Whitmore fired, fellas!

    PROGRAMMING NOTE:
    This poll will count towards the Grouchy™ Point Cup, as will all CONCACAF World Cup qualifying polls (probably only US matches). Come get yerself a good CONCACAFing!
     
  2. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It appears that Jamaica will be without Kemar Roofe for this one:


    I'm curious to see who we start with McKennie and MRobinson out.
     
  3. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My guess is we'll see Busio and Chris Richards come in. The only other change I could envision would be Scally for Yedlin. That one more to get the new guy some time with the main first team in a less pressure filled situation compared to Mexico at home.
     
  4. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I bet $10 Lleget starts.

    I would be ecstatic to lose that bet.
     
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  5. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, no mention of the backline or the middle three but we know who'll be in goal.
     
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  6. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would not take that bet. But if either Arronson or Weah lose their place, Pulisic is likely the reason why. At least I hope so. Weah was man of the match for me vs Mexico and Arronson was a tad unlucky not to show up on the score sheet. He was excellent in his defensive pressure and you'd hate to lose that.

    Lleget over Bussio, I guess I could see that for some kind of "dependability" justification or some such. But only one of those guys can do a reasonable McKennie impersonation.
     
  7. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    If you want a "McKennie-lite", Acosta's your man (weirdly), but then that turns the midfield very, very defensive and forces Adams to maybe be too much of an attacking force - though I trust him over most others to be that guy. I'd like to see Busio.

    Weah was my man of the match, with maybe Zimmerman as #2 (which was nice to see). Musah next. I think we need Musah in there for his strength on the ball and willingness and ability to run with the ball forward out of pressure - it makes a huge difference to have that sort of player. Pulisic, when he drops deep to collect the ball is also a huge bonus in the going-forward bit, but he doesn't have the strength/power of Musah and might get kicked to death. Not that I'm comparing Pulisic and Musah, because they play different positions, but Pulisic will come find the ball a lot more than, say, Aaronson or whomever is the center forward.
     
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  8. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    What about a pint of Hoppin Frog Christmas Ale in place of $10?
     
  9. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would chose to have Acosta replace McKinnie. Busio is great when we have the ball but think we should expect to not dominate possession. My gut is Scally wont see the field and this is a game that Cannon will start. Greg doesn't like calling someone in for the first time and playing them right away (pepi is the exception and Musah the reality). I don't think he risk Pulisic with a start and again will have him come off the bench. I wonder how Weah is feeling and if we can get 45 mins from him.
     
  10. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Sure.
     
  11. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Berhalter said:

    1. McKenzie or Richards for Miles (no 3 back and no Sands).

    2. Busio, Acosta, or Lletget for McKennie (not Roldan or Sands).

    Good to see Steffen getting the nod again and that Pulisic could be yealthy enough to start.
     
  12. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    It's a bet. No way Lleget starts. His game in Panama was absolutely embarrassing.
     
  13. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't start Pulisic. If he's not 90-minutes-fit, he's not 90-minutes-fit. And while I would certainly be weary of saying "we should be able to handle it" when describing a CONCACAF road match, I'd be willing to play at least the first half without him and see where it goes.
     
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  14. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My boss will understand that I need to start drinking now to be in proper form for this game, yeah?
     
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  15. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I scheduled an in-home client meeting at 4, thinking the game would be no earlier than 7 pm.

    Who the ******** ok’d a 5 pm start time?
     
  16. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am going to be interviewing someone with the game on a second screen. Does that make me a horrible human?
     
  17. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Today's work productivity is wondering the same.
     
  18. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ask them who should start in goal for the USMNT. That'll tell you all you need to know about them.
     
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  19. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm trying to figure that out too.

    I know the game's being played in an empty stadium because of COVID protocols, but I don't know how (or if) that has anything to do with the start time.
     
  20. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The exact opposite thinking of the 9pm ET start v Mexico to enable west coast folks to watch. No idea what the thinking was, I know there is limited capacity in Jamaica due to Covid. Maybe making it at 5pm lessens the blow to the locals who can't go, helps keep gatherings down? That's the only reason I can think of.
     
  21. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently they changed their minds...

    Fans will be there after all. Unless they've changed it again.
     
  22. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  23. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's 80 degrees with 77% humidity in Kingston. Maybe THAT'S the reason for the start time.
     
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  24. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only lineup changes are forced by suspensions. Not too surprising. I was correct in thinking that Busio and Richards would be the ones to come in. Have heard reports that Scally will get a debut if the situation enables that. Nice to see that too.

    Excited for this one. Still deciding if i'm going to watch live. I am leaning towards no. I can half watch the first half while working, but then need to go make dinner for the family so would have to either barely watch the 2nd half or come back and watch the second half later. So, I'm leaning toward not watching live at all and going on a blackout until the replay posts on Paramount+. I hope it's not super late, last time i did this it didn't show up until nearly midnight.
     
  25. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So forgive me for not having paid attention but do I really have to watch this game with Spanish audio?
     

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