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Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by 3rd Degree, Jul 17, 2004.

  1. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The talk of Davis led me to think of this....

    "If everyone is healthy, when I make out my Dallas Burn lineup, the following players have to be in there no matter what: ________________.:

    anyone want to play? I'll go first...

    I have 5 on my Must Play Players list:

    Johnson
    Davis
    Valakari
    O'Brien
    Gibbs
     
  2. BurnSC89

    BurnSC89 New Member

    Jun 2, 2004
    Cameron, TX
    I agree with you Buzz, but what about Kreis? Just his presence on the field inspires the others. As does Pareja's, but he doesn't have quite the ability to be a must play anymore.
     
  3. texas arsenal

    texas arsenal New Member

    Aug 7, 2003
    Frisco Tx
    I think you hit the nail on the head. These 5 along with Kreis are the core of the team to say the least.
     
  4. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On can certainly make the case for Kreis... He is an immense talent and leader, but for some reason in my mind he is now at the point where I put him a notch behind... But that is just me and for the purpose of this list. Certainly he is a player worthy of starting. But I just don't think he is a no matter what guy.

    Maybe that is due to a desire to rest him some during the season and keep him healthier and fresher.
     
  5. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My list would include Pareja too.

    No one else on the team has anything close to Oscar's ball distribution skills or his ability to keep possession in tight quarters and draw a foul.
     
  6. BurnFanMan

    BurnFanMan New Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    El Paso
    If I look at that list, the last three names are the ones that stick out. I'd probably put Simo first, followed by Gibbs and Obrien together, but without those three the games would have been different. Eddie might be on the cusp of joining that group but still has a ways to go (why he can't bring everything to the table Arnaud does and more is beyond my simple soccer mind-but probably still something on the maturing end of things). Davis is talented for sure, but not in that group of three, IMHO. I really can't recall games where I thought the Burn would have missed his presence in a way similar to Obrien, Gibbs and especially Simo. As for the KC game when he was on the bench, I don't see that as a contributing factor. He might have helped the team keep the ball a bit, but given the amount of ground he covers in relation to most two-way players I am not sure a little extra possesion would have made up for what was lacking.
     
  7. Wacko4Burn

    Wacko4Burn New Member

    Apr 26, 2004
    Waco, TX
    This is basically the center of the park, which should feature the best players. OK, so ROB is out wide, but I think we'll see more of him in center out of necessity. I agree with that list on talent/potential. Dallas has got to protect these guys in expansion draft, plus Jolley and Kreis, maybe Cassar, Reyes, and Salyer.

    If I'm going just 5, based on overall performance this year, not potential:

    Valakari - my 1st half MVP, the Destroyer is a big surprise, plus beat SJ in their house
    Johnson - just for attitude adjustment alone
    Kreis - producing and full 90 fitness not even 9 months after ACL (we tend to forget that devastating injury, boys), plus got the goals record
    Behnke - solid surprise, we've seen more of him than Gibbs
    Jolley - forget LA game, we don't miss what we gave up for him

    Runners up:
    Cassar - huge surprise, minus the brain farts
    ROB - assist leader, but we miss the goals
     
  8. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good list.

    Anyone else?
     
  9. SoftTackle

    SoftTackle Member

    Jan 16, 2004
    Missoula, MT
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I think my list would only be:

    Valakari
    Gibbs
    O'Brien
    Johnson

    I don't put Kreis on the list because I can think of situations where I would want to rest him. For instance this week I wouldn't play him in all three games, thinking it might be too much strain on his knee.

    Davis isn't in the form to guarantee a spot. Cassar is probably the closest to joining the four.
     
  10. ArsenalTexan3

    ArsenalTexan3 Member

    Arsenal
    Sep 24, 2002
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Sayler-Ezra who?
    Gibbs/Jolley combo-brillent in having two leaders in the back. T-Bo was decent' but not a true leader. All those other guys who they tried to partner with in the CD spots to be nice, didn't cut it.

    Kreis and ROB-coming back from injuries.

    EJ-instead of slacking off from his playing time, he has gone after it to earn and keep it.

    Simo-See I told you so Theodore. :D

    Keepers: They may not be David Seaman, but they earn my two thumbs up especially JC00 after all my bashing him.
     
  11. Alex Sanz

    Alex Sanz New Member

    Apr 6, 2000
    TX
    Miss what goals? Setting up guys is his game, and he's doing it brilliantly this year. Can't imagine not including him in the Burn's must start list.
     
  12. Chamo

    Chamo New Member

    Aug 9, 1999
    Plano,TX
    Johnson
    Valakari
    O'Brien
    Gibbs
    Jolley
     
  13. boomersooner027

    May 13, 2004
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    i agree with keeping jolley over davis...save the la game jolley has not been talked about much at least on these boards which means that he has been doing his job quite well especially with gibbs not being able to play every game
     
  14. MjrGrubert

    MjrGrubert BigSoccer Supporter

    May 22, 2003
    Whitefish, MT
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jeff Cassar is making a run at this elite list IMHO. More amazing saves last night.
     
  15. Alex Sanz

    Alex Sanz New Member

    Apr 6, 2000
    TX
    Exactly. After last night, my list:

    ROB (team MVP, but on the right)
    Simo (the anchor)
    Gibbs (leads the defense)
    EJ (our lack of speed when he's not there is obvious)
    Cassar (saves our arse game in and game out)
     
  16. BulaJacket

    BulaJacket Member

    Columbus Crew (hometown), Minnesota United (close ties), Colorado Rapids (now home), Jacksonville Armada (ties)
    United States
    May 9, 2003
    Ashtabula, OH / Denver, CO / MN / Jax
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good list right here.

    Cassar has probably recently jumped to the top group.
    Kreis is real close.
    Jolley is close as well.
    I also don't have Davis with the above group, next level.

    So I sort of have group 1 & group 2.
     
  17. mudpoet

    mudpoet Member

    May 16, 2004
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like this list. If I added anyone to it, Kreis and Jolley would both join the list.
     

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