This is why I love Noam Chomsky

"fear"? Many of us just think he's wrong on a lot of things.

 

I was referring to those willing to lie to make him look bad, Nicephoras.

Not even to Cikowsky who probably just trusted Dershowitz.

I am referring to the aware dershowitzs all around the world.

You will agree that there's a big difference between ppl who "happen to think he is wrong" and ppl who "make stuff up in order to slander him".

And yes I think that the second group is driven by fear.

 

The American Right hates Chomsky largely because, through his exhaustively documented work on American foreign policy, he forever burst their bubble regarding America as the unalloyed 100% "white hat" good guy who always acts only out of selfless motives and never supports any vicious thugs who are just as bad or worse than their "communist" opponents. For that alone, he has earned their undying hatred and the mere mention of his name causes them to go into conniptions and to foam at the mouth.

Of course, along with Edward Herman, Chomsky also devleoped the model of capitalist media systems that served as the basis for research that demonstrates that "the media" is not "liberal" and in fact is right-wing concerning economic and political topics and also explains why and how this is so. By doing this, Chomsky helped take away from the American Right one of the prime components of their sense of paranoid victimhood.

So Chomsky, despite his flaws - and I myself do not agree with everything he writes, has been instrumental in destroying two key myths prevalant among right-wing circles here. Is it any wonder the Right hates and fears him like they hate and fear few others.

 

wow, I think you need a new tinfoil hat.

 

Then fVck your grandmother.

 

Ok, drama queen. Apparently you read the thread, then read my posts explaining. So you're just one of those pile-on types, huh?

O realize you're just getting a shot in at a right winger, so in kind, fVck your mother in her arse. Take care!

 

we know, you Palestinians love Chomsky for the no-Holocaust stuff.

 

Lovely. Its times like these I question "evolution".

 

This is why your relevance will never extend beyond Archer's den. Go back to leading the blind.

 

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ratdog again.

Thank you, Ratdog.

 

What's funny is that I can guarantee you that I can list the flaws in Chomsky's approached, analyses, and solutions better than Chick-cow-ski, because I've ACTUALLY ********ING READ HIM, not had my invective towards him handed to me by Right wing ideologues and Jews mad at his criticism of Israel and the hypocrisy of the West to the extent it claims to ideationally build, as opposed to its radical efforts to build upon nation-state power.

I mean, even his analysis of the World Court ruling in favor of Nicaragua was limited in accurate scope, but come on...Theodore's People would -and WILL- never even tell that story.

No, I'd bet my family on it, and in some ways I have: Chomsky analysis, and subsequent vision, of the present and insight regarding potentialities of the future will be considered, engaged, and dealt with when either Ted-esque neocon modes are dust in the wind due to their inhumanity, or humanity for the most part dust in the wind due to the weapon-based small penis petulance that inevitably accompanies neocon thinking. Either way, what the future will consider will far more resemble Chomsky than Chick-cow.

Believe it.

 

1 - I am not a palestinian. I am italian, precisely sardinian.
2 - Which Chomsky's no-holocaust stuff are you talking about?
3 - Never appreciated the negationist genre.

You should add some midfielders in your thoughts' lineup. Someone solid to keep posession of your brain.

You should know that midfield is the key sector of the field.

 

Holy crap! You ARE a nutter. You cut-and-paste alot from looney lefty websites, but what the h#ll are you talking about in your first paragraph?

But the funniest thing is that you act as if Chomsky doctorine is common knowledge, as if all of America should naturally study the lefty-commie version of Thomas Sowell (conservative that writes alot on language usage). Of course, you KNOW Chomsky is a fringe academic, only given relevance for his linguistic teaching, BUT you just like to act elitist, so you pass off Chomsky as if it's Geography 101. This is why you lose elections.

 

Ah, the type that jumps in the gutter to name-call, then gets elitist on the first invective I hurl. Typical liberal.

Are you high, or just manic-depressive?

 

Don't you have a grave to desecrate somewhere?

 

Um, no. Oh, still harping on my example of Chosky-ism? You disingenuous lout.

 

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I agree. And so - this discussion is over. Ignore list for you.

 

Yes! Triple nipple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Please, ANYTHING but THAT!

 

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Now there will be no living with me.

You'd have done yourself a favor if you'd stopped there because your very words imply my criticism of your next paragraphs.

Why should Moore or Chomsky waste their precious time trumpeting American virutes when the U.S. media, the U.S. government, and many well-funded think tanks are already making American self-righteousness damn near impossible to escape as it is? What would be the point of adding frost to snow? They serve as a check and a balance. To duplicate the already massive U.S. propaganda machine would be pointless. And I think that both Chomsky and Moore are more even handed than you give them credit for, especially considering the above.

Well, the Bush administration (not to mention it's various attack dogs and right-wing talk radio in general) resorts to playing loosely with the facts so for their fans to complain about Moore or Chomsky is a bit hypocritical in itself.

Because their view of the Cuban situation is hopelesly obsolete. Even if Castro dies tomorrow and Cuba somehow becomes capitalist (which it won't), the Krazy Kubans aren't getting their haciendas, sugar plantations, rum factories and Mafia ties back the way they were in 1958. That just ain't gonna happen and all the goofy "freedom flights" and stuff aren't going to change anything. There are others reasons for calling the Miami Cubans "Krazy" but that's a topic for a separate thread.

If true, this puts them greatly at odds with Iraqi Iraqis, given the size and scope of the resisitance over there. And the American Right is famous for having ignored the pleas of various Latin American immigrant groups who have complained loudly about the murderous barbarity of our bully boys in places like Chile, El Salvador, etc., not to mention East Timor and a dozen other places around the globe. Has anyone polled the Burmese-American population about the SLORC regime currently terrorizing their homeland? So for a right-winger to try to lecture me about ignoring the wishes of a foreign population is a study in complete hypocrisy.

And you're ignoring all the polls by those same groups and others that showed the opposite. I did my undergraduate work on questionnaires and surveys and personally think all polls have to be taken with huge grains of salt and that those done in Iraq are particularly useless given the extremely unsettled situation over there. Rather than believing what people are willing to tell a pollster, I prefer to watch what they do and right now, they're supporting a large, organized resistance movement that could not exist without their tacit (and active) support.

Now, I'm not saying that eventually, the U.S.A. cannot make the good parts of what we've done in Iraq outweigh the bad but the way the Bush administration is going about things, that won't happen in the next four years, especially when you take into consideration the effects that the war and occupation are having outside Iraq - on our national debt, for instance, to name but one example.

At any rate, the bottom line is that people like Chomsky and Moore are necessary for not letting us get too self-righteous and arrogant. So of course, a certain portion of the population resents them. That is hardly surprising for what should be obvious reasons.