Third UK Minister Resigns Over Blair's Iraq Policy

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  1. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
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    LONDON (Reuters) - A mid-ranking British interior minister, John Denham, resigned from government on Tuesday, becoming the third minister to quit in protest at Prime Minister Tony Blair's hawkish Iraq policy.
    "John Denham has resigned," a Downing Street spokesman told Reuters.

    Denham, a Home Office minister who has also served in the Department of Health, said in a statement he could not support the government in a vote later on Tuesday about whether to wage war on Iraq, when Blair will face a major rebellion from within his ruling Labour party.

    here.

    Question: does a lack of resignations among Democrats here in the US - at any level - signify anything at all?
     
  2. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    what would democrats resign from? they aren't part of the administration and dem members of Congress have already had the opportunity to vote in favor or against the war.
     
  3. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
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    Lol...you know what? I can't stand you. But that's damn funny.
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Yeah, but you're an Injun. It's in your genes.
     
  5. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Was watching Fox News before (well I needed a laugh) and saw that they had the 3 pictures of the three resignees, except that John Denham was definitely none other than William Hague, former leader of the Tory party.
    So, not the right person, or party, and Hague resigned his position some time ago.
    I know it was Fox, but surely a news broadcaster shouldn't be this lax.
     
  6. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    True.
    It was the first time in a while I'd watched Fox News, and the first time since this whole Iraq thing started up (again) - but was a bit flabbergasted by the amount of 'gung-ho-ness' there was about everything.
    The only other US news channel I watch is CNN, and even that had certain elements of gung about it.
    I don't know whether I ought to be taken aback by the obvious media bias, but I just knew that I was.

    Which, in anyone's estimation is the best news channel for straight down the middle reports?
     
  7. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    The Golf Channel, of course.
     
  8. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    I was watching FOX one time, and they mislabeled Iowa "Idaho". Oops.
     
  9. -cman-

    -cman- New Member

    Apr 2, 2001
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    Lying bastards.
     
  10. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
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    Since I assume most or all of Tony Blair's ministers are from his own Labour Party, what would that have to do with Democrat resignations in this country? Now if a bunch of Conservative ministers in Britain resigned, you'd have a parralel, but since they're the opposition party in Britain, it wouldn't make much sense for them to resign.
     
  11. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

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    FOX? Fair and balanced? "We report, you decide" my ass.

    These are the same guys who, when talking about Iraq's balsa-wood UAV program showed a picture of the Predator. There is so much spin on FOX News watching it makes me dizzy.

    Local FOX news isn't much better - you guys seen this Mark Hyman jackass from Newscentral.tv? Yikes.
     
  12. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    He he. His name is Hyman.
     
  13. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

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    My wife finds that especially funny.
     
  14. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
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    Known as "Buster" among his freinds...
     
  15. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
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    "You can put it on the boooooooooard.... YES!"
     
  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    CNN is probably the least gung-ho. It's often derided here as a "liberal" outlet.

    No, I'm serious.

    Stop laughing.

    Dammit, I'm not joking.
     
  17. TheWakeUpBomb

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    Mar 2, 2000
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    CNN has far more "liberals" working in newsgathering than "conservatives". Far more.
     
  18. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    This is just a spin-off on the MRC blather about how more reporters vote Democrat and therefore the output of "the media" is somehow automatically unanimously "liberal".

    This argument collapses when you when examine actual media outputs. As has been mentioned in other threads, the US news media is schizo. On social issues like womens' rights or racism, they are usually liberal. On political and economic issues, they are usually conservative. If you don't know why this is, read Daniel Bell's "Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism". Don't worry - despite the title, it's completely safe for good little right-wingers.
     
  19. TheWakeUpBomb

    TheWakeUpBomb Member

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    I'm sure you and I would disagree on the level at which the media is conservative or liberal on a given issue (especially political ones), but I think the overall premise is correct. I was simply responding to the notion that it was "funny" that CNN could have a liberal slant.

    Unfortunately, the other thing that gets lost behind Fox News talking heads is that some of their reporters are actually very, very good. They've swiped some great international correspondents from CNN, for example. Their information is often solid, but that often gets lost amid the - ahem - 'No Spin Zone'.
     
  20. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Would it help if they included a ;)

    It's obviously a jab at what conservatives see as the liberal media. It's quite creative, actually. If anyone wants to drive a die-hard liberal crazy, just say that you watch FOX, wait for the expected insult, and respond with "At least they're fair and balanced"

    The biggest problem with tv news is that it's mostly junk food. I enjoy newspapers across the political spectrum, but tv news is virtually unwatchable. When the war starts, I'll flip on CNN. Otherwise, I can't be bothered. With the internet, who needs tv news?
     

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