Things we See

Discussion in 'Referee' started by DefRef, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    another "stupid ref trick":

    Our league is strict on players sitting out matches for suspensions (forfeit and fine). Most players (and managers) remember a red card, so that's not much of an issue, however, the suspensions for 3YC (3rd caution in a season earns a one-game suspension) are all too often overlooked. It's my job to check the rosters to be sure that a suspended player did not check in to play.

    Now what would you think if you saw these marks on a roster?
    231022_check-in.png

    I reported #25 as POS (playing on suspension - what did you think I meant?). The team managers went ballistic. Turns out that the referee put a check next to the players who were not present. SMH
     
  2. davidjd

    davidjd Member+

    Jun 30, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not even sure how that check-in process works. You'd have to temporarily keep track of those are there to then come up with a list who aren't there and mark them. Or maybe the referees are just asking the team who on the roster isn't there and assuming all the other players are okay?
     
  3. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
  4. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    Can you imagine if soccer players had to report as "eligible" and "ineligible" to score to us when doing a free kick, corner kick, etc...
     
  5. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    #205 MetroFever, Dec 31, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2023
    For non-NFL fans, he's referring to last night's Cowboys/Lions game. :)

    We've all done games where a team does that awful corner kick trick play where the coach or team captain alerts the crew in the pregame that they are definitely going to do it. The equivalent for us would be that your AR forgets about it and pops the flag up as soon as the second guy touches the ball, taking away the winning goal (assuming you didn't wave him down).

    Listening to the referee analyst in the post-game and watching the close-up video, #68 didn't exactly go out of his way to get the referees attention as he's focused on #70 telling him that he's "eligible". I'd put the blame about 80/20 on the player on this play.

    Aside from this, it's more clear that NFL referees are being told to look the other way on egregious pass interference plays in the final minute of games. Cornerbacks are grabbing receivers, knowing it's extremely unlikely a flag is going to be thrown, which is ridiculous. This year, it's the worst I've ever seen.
     
  6. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    Well, what I heard.

    U-16 girls league game but both teams from the same club. I had my AR's calling the names on the cards and recording the numbers on the roster. AR reads one name. Nobody moves or says anything. She repeats it. The coach says, "Oh, she's on the other team."

    Pouring rain, with wind, 44 degrees at kickoff. Welcome to the new season. Younger team won,2-1, on an own goal with 20 seconds left.
     
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  7. LongTimeLurker

    Dec 24, 2019
    Loads of fun when you try to do this with an electronic roster (sent via email) without shirt numbers.

    Even in less than pouring rain, I've ended up with formless wads instead of sheets of paper by the time check-in is done.
     
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  8. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    And that is exactly why I have a Weatherwriter in my bag. As one coach said when I used it on a moisty day, "You've done this before." "Yep."
     
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  9. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    This weekend a parent in under-12s water polo disputed the score that the scorekeeper had and tried to use his video recording as VAR to change the score, causing a 5 minute delay during the game to argue

    It’s nice to see these psycho little kid parents doing crap like this aren’t just confined to the soccer fields which we’ve dealt with before. Apparently it’s pretty universal across sports that the younger the kids are the worse the parents are
     
  10. espola

    espola Member+

    Feb 12, 2006
    And then there are softball parents.

    https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/lo...tendent-on-paid-administrative-leave/3423163/

    "Buchen is among the group of parents and students accusing Phelps of harassing members of Del Norte High’s softball team for not clapping loudly enough for her daughter during an awards banquet last May."
     
  11. jayhonk

    jayhonk Member+

    Oct 9, 2007
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  12. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
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  13. Chaik

    Chaik Member

    Oct 18, 2001
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Back when I coached high school softball we were awful but we were the cause of the state association giving guidance that teams would not be permitted to use actual drumsticks on Home Depot ball buckets. So at least we were annoying.
     
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  14. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    funny aside. When I first got into doing HS soccer way back yonder one of the other officials said “hey you’re not bad at this you should give football or softball a go!” Since they’re in spring and fall for us. I had no interest and politely declined. Outside I never played either sport, I told them I had no interest in dealing with either coaches and the chanting for softball would drive me crazy!
     
  15. Chaik

    Chaik Member

    Oct 18, 2001
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    The best part about the cheering and chanting from the dugout is that it drowns out the parents.

    That was the same team where I had a dad yell at me that we were losing because the girls were "making little league mistakes." I stopped, looked at him quizzically and said "weren't you their little league coach?"
     
  16. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    Men's O-50 today. First place v second place, final game of the season. Both teams from the same club, lots of friendly banter before the game, guys laughing during the game about their silly mistakes and give aways.

    About 30 minutes in, white (attacking, 1st place team) player has the ball at his feet out on the wing, unmarked. Goalkeeper, foolishly, decides to come out and challenge for the ball. Assuming that white is going to kick it on the ground, the goalkeeper goes down horizontally, maybe 10 yards from the ball. White, still just standing there with the ball at his feet, decides to just chip it into the goal. Very high ball comes down and hits the front of the crossbar. By this time, there is a player from both teams standing on the goal line next to each other, waiting for the ball to come down, facing away from the goal. They both sort of jump and the white attacker kind of kicks it. The ball goes out well beyond the far post for a goal kick, as both of them fall on top of each other. Not the finest moment of the game. White won, 7-0.
     
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  17. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://news.yahoo.com/wiaa-equips-referees-body-cameras-010759905.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

    WIAA and Washington Officials Association (WOA) decided to implement a thinking-outside-the-box strategy to curb the current mad-behavior craze.
    They are giving referees the option to wear body cameras.
    As part of the WIAA and WOA’s eight-week pilot program, 100 basketball referees in 11 different counties statewide have been wearing them while they’ve officiated high-school varsity, junior varsity, ‘C’ team and middle-school games.
    The pilot program ends after this weekend’s regional round of the WIAA playoffs.
     
  18. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    upload_2024-3-28_21-55-11.png the state youth league’s public suspensions list has the funniest long suspension entry I’ve seen. The leagues head of discipline doesn’t pull any punches
     
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  19. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    Maybe he just doesn’t like soccer but his parents won’t let him quit. He’s taking matters into his own hands! :ROFLMAO:
     
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  20. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    Something else is going on there, it's not strictly the soccer.
     
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  21. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    here’s one more I found. U8 boys. 4 red cards in one game. Two 2CT, 1 SFP, 1 AL.

    upload_2024-3-29_9-45-36.png

    When I check back in on this list every month or two, I am just astounded by what I see and the level of crap refs in the region are dealing with on a weekly basis. Even with all the cards I give, I rarely have 2CT and almost never have straight reds. And regularly seeing suspensions of coaches for 6+ games after getting sent off them refusing to leave and threatening the refs

    I don’t know if these are just psychotic players and coaches, crappy refs, or what.
     
  22. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    there’s also a wide culture and variety of teams with certain attitudes towards referees. If you’re in a more affluent area versus inner city team there’s different player, parent and coaching expectations. We can even go over support systems too with different clubs but you get the idea.
     
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  23. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    I had an adult player today off the field who decided to stand next to the goal and started yelling to me that some player was offside, never had that one happen before. Of course I could have yellow carded him but for adult Sunday league, who cares, I just showed him the rule after about how off the field players are treated as on the goal line
     
  24. SA14mars

    SA14mars Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    when I was in college we had intramural teams that would show up a player short. To solve this they would find a girlfriend or boyfriend who would sit by the corner flag with their feet on the field. That is until someone realized that meant they were the second to last defender basically always.
     
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  25. weka

    weka Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    My life has been so much better since I quit doing Sunday league. That and I get so much time back.
     
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