Things we See

Discussion in 'Referee' started by DefRef, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    C’mon , the announcer even explained it for you “he doesn’t even touch the ball with his hands”!!

    seriously, I’m guessing that in real time the R couldn’t tell if it was past the magic armpit line, and the VAR didn’t think it was C&O that it was. From that angle it sure looks like it is, but another angle might make it more (or less) clear. Another example of why the armpit line is silly.
     
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  2. Soccer Dad & Ref

    Oct 19, 2017
    San Diego
    Sure looked like it was above the recently well-defined armpit line
     
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  3. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    "Now there's something you don't see everyday, Vern...."

    During my game yesterday, I give a free kick to the black team, right at the 20 yard line. (Field also marked for gridiron football.) White defenders are at the 10 yard line and pointing at the ground. I'm thinking they're asking if they are at the right place for their wall. I tell them yes, that's 10 yards. Black takes the kick and it goes out for a goal kick. The players then insist that I come look at what they're pointing to. "It's a knife!" There is a switchblade there in the turf. I carried it off the field and discarded it, but I've never found a knife on the field before.
     
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  4. ptref

    ptref Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Aug 5, 2015
    Bowling Green, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like somebody didn’t fully inspect the field before the game. I know an old assessor that would fail you for that.
     
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  5. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you need to come to New Yawk, have found plenty of dirty needles in my day.
     
  6. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    Yeah, probably so. To be honest, it was kind of embedded in the sewn in line which had a little depression at that point.
    The start of the game was a little abnormal, since there was a men's game just before it, which was terminated after a major injury to a player. Possible broken sternum from a high kick. We stood around for a quarter of an hour or so, just waiting for an ambulance to show up.
     
  7. weka

    weka Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    #307 weka, Nov 14, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2024
    Really not sure where to put this. Watching Qatar vs Uzbekistan World Cup qualifier (AFC) and see an on-field recommendation for DOGSO... on-field decision was yellow.

    Referee goes to monitor and takes maybe 20 seconds and sticks with yellow. What am I not seeing that something else thought this would be a DOGSO? For context, the player at top clearly pulls the white player's shoulder.
     

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  8. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That still picture doesnt tell the story of how fast the players are. The ball is moving to goal as are the players and the white player is being held back. If the white player is moving twice as fast as the red players, its headed to DOGSO. If its the same speed its SPA.
     
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  9. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    Weka you know we can’t judge a DOGSO vs. SPA based on a still image, give us the clip if you’ve got it
     
  10. weka

    weka Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    He really wasn't. Same speed or negligible difference. I'll try to get video.
     
  11. soxfaninny

    soxfaninny Member

    Hotspur
    United States
    Mar 2, 2018
    NY Hudson Valley
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spotted. Today's NYT Crossword. 4 letters. upload_2024-12-3_12-25-22.png
     
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  12. Gary V

    Gary V Member+

    Feb 4, 2003
    SE Mich.
    Flag? :confused:
     
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  13. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    Sock?:rolleyes:
     
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  14. the_phoenix612

    Manchester United
    United States
    Sep 13, 2022
    Houston, TX
    Team?
     
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  15. Mi3ke

    Mi3ke Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    New Mexico
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. espola

    espola Member+

    Feb 12, 2006
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  17. dadman

    dadman Yo soy un papa

    DC United
    United States
    Apr 13, 2001
    Frederick, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn’t recommend that a referee work a game either suffering jaundice or in high choler, but I can see that as a four-letter answer. :D
     
  18. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    Rash?
     
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  19. Soccer Dad & Ref

    Oct 19, 2017
    San Diego
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  20. soxfaninny

    soxfaninny Member

    Hotspur
    United States
    Mar 2, 2018
    NY Hudson Valley
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, I *think* the others were jokes ;-)
     
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  21. Soccer Dad & Ref

    Oct 19, 2017
    San Diego
    Flag and team seemed good too, but bummer I had no sense of humor, lol
     
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  22. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
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  23. weka

    weka Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Going down the rabbit hole... Australia Soccer announces the retirement of Assistant Referee Ryan Gallagher who did over 200 A-League matches. I check out his profile on Soccerway and see a game from 1996. Weird. It was the 1996 Euro Championship group-stage match between France and Bulgaria. Obviously a typo. The game was actually refereed by Irish referee Dermot Gallagher who was replaced English referee Paul Durkin in the 28th minute due to referee injury.

    The game in question.



    What was really interesting was seeing his free-kick positioning. Notably at 5:11 and 7:28 on the timestamp. Another thing of note was how much he let go at 4:02 and 4:20.

    Was the 1990s an era of different type of refereeing? Or was it him?

    Durkin would referee one GS game 2 years later in the World Cup (Italy v Austria) and the very first video pops up with this:

     
  24. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    Did anyone see the bills-broncos playoff game yesterday, where it showed the referee bill Vinovich on the bills bench talking to josh Allen? People thought he was apologizing to him because they missed a clear holding in the end zone. Turns out vinovich was over there telling Allen to stop yelling at the refs

    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...-him-during-game-to-stop-yelling-about-calls#

    That would be funny to see in soccer especially with the lack of stoppages. Anthony Taylor gong all the way to the man city bench and seeing cameras capturing him telling haaland to stop yelling at him
     

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