Thin Air: Why aren't there more substitutions at home?

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by RockyMtn, May 11, 2007.

  1. RockyMtn

    RockyMtn New Member

    Apr 21, 2007
    There have been four Colorado home games at Dick's. The air is thin, the field is huge, and the away teams, in theory, are not acclimated. The players should be tired. Why, then, are there not more substitutions?

    Colorado has never used more than two substitutions. Only Chicago used three.

    Here are the minutes that the substitutions occured:

    5/10
    Salt Lake: 61, 67
    Colorado: 57, 90

    5/5
    Houston: 79, 91
    Colorado: 61, 72

    4/30 – away (RSL)
    4/22 – away (Dallas)

    4/15
    Chicago: 46, 70, 79
    Colorado: 29, 88

    4/7
    D.C.: 54, 58
    Colorado: 60, 79

    So what's the deal? Is the thin air less of a factor than I was led to believe? :confused:
     
  2. gschroeder

    gschroeder Member

    Jun 18, 2001
    Thornton, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I believe we just haven't utilized it correctly. We have as big of a field as you can get. The more field you use and the longer you keep possesion, the more winded the opponents will be. That said, I think altitude is a bit overplayed.
     
  3. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I think Clavijo rarely used all of his subs when he coached New England. Some coaches are like that.
     
  4. phills

    phills Member

    Nov 24, 1999
    He just is not a very good coach. He is not creative. He does not analyze each game..He is afraid of change. He is too nice to make players held accountable for their play nor has good practices to analyze how all the players are doing.
     
  5. soccer 1st

    soccer 1st New Member

    Mar 8, 2007
    Rooney
    Clavijo does not discipline the veteran players for poor preformances rather in practice or games. He does not reward the younger players for out preforming the starters (daily) in pratice or for their quality play in the reserve games.
    How will he ever develop quality younger players for the future.
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Right, I mean, afterall how can an up and coming youngster like Zach Thornton get a chance?
     
  7. GreatZar

    GreatZar Member

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Mar 29, 1999
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because the Rapids aren't deep (he||, we're starting Gargan). Why sub someone good for shvte? You do realize that a sub can't re-enter the match?
     
  8. mauro_

    mauro_ New Member

    Oct 31, 2005
    Bs As, Argentina
    the only game where the rapids used the hole field was against DC.
     
  9. Independiente

    Independiente Member

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Mar 15, 2005
    Littleton, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought in last nights game all three subs should have been used. We clearly weren't playing very well in the first half and some new blood would have helped. Plus, we have another game on Sunday, so a good time to use all the subs. Ugo was on the bench, so I have to assume he was healthy enough to play, otherwise why have him on the bench. I say put him in either for Gargan and have him play the right side at the start of second half (I thought Gargan did well, but he was seeing a lot of action and must have been a bit drained). Or put Ugo in the center back, push Pablo up into midfield so that Beckerman could've been attacking more, and sub out Kirovski at half. Bringing in Cancela was a good boost, but I say give him a full half. Peterson should have come on for Nico, but in like the 70th minute. Or Colaluca in for Cooke at the 75th. I know I've named 4 subs, so I would have ultimately done this: Cancela for Kirovski at 45. Peterson for Nico 70, Colaluca for Cooke 75. If fatigue is an issue in NY this weekend, lets use all three subs.
     
  10. nowar99

    nowar99 Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Boulder
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I think Zach used up all of his chances (and possibly some of Jacob Peterson's) at the dinner buffet.
     
  11. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While the thin air is a good advantage it also effects the oxygen flow to Clavijo's brain?

    Otherwise, I can't see a reason.
     
  12. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    Yeah, like Mr. Hanki.:eek:
     
  13. eRulz2

    eRulz2 New Member

    Aug 23, 2006
    Tulsa, OK
    What a Dink! Is there anyone here that thinks subs can come back? Sub someone good... hmmm... did you see the water boy running the sidelines the other night? I'll take him over Jovan. Sub 1.

    Niko - 6 Games - Zero shots on goal... hard to call him someone good currently.

    Have you every watched a reserve match? Did you watch the blue team (young guys + Pablo) own play the first half of the Blue / Maroon game?

    By my count, there are 6 players on the bench that would be an improvement on the big field.

    In case you missed it, I called you a Dink!
     
  14. JengibreNAK

    JengibreNAK Member

    Aug 11, 2006
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I bet the weather has something to do with the "lack" of subs too. It hasn't even been hot yet for a game at the Dick. Once it starts reaching the 90-100 range, I bet we'll see some more subs. The weather was perfect thursday.
     
  15. WJMarx

    WJMarx BigSoccer Supporter

    May 5, 2003
    Boulder, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with your suggested strategy an implications regarding altitude at 5400 feet, BUT, the largest field size approved by FIFA is 150 yds x 100 yds!
     
  16. greenie

    greenie New Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    When it comes to the conditioning of professional athletes in team sports, altitude really doesn't play a major role until you get above 7,500-8,000 feet.

    Especially with regards to soccer players, the only time you'll hear complaints about "thin air" is when someone is looking for an excuse to explain a loss or an otherwise poor performance.
     
  17. eRulz2

    eRulz2 New Member

    Aug 23, 2006
    Tulsa, OK
    So, what's the magic number? 7,500? 8,000? Is that for someone used to training at 4,000 ft? A difference of 3,500 ft? Or for someone at sea level? Have you ever lived at or near sea level? Or have you always lived in thin air? A lifetime of limited oxygen might explain your thought process.

    Apparently science is just hogwash. Mexico City is ONLY difficult because of the smog... don't know why it doesn't apply to LA.

    Have you ever talked to a professional athlete? Oh... Wait... it's the greenies, they make everything better.

    Dude, not trying to be harsh, but as an athlete that moved from Oklahoma to Colorado (20 years ago), I respectfully disagree. We should dominate the last 30 minutes of home games against any low altitude team. There will absolutely be SOME players feeling the effect.
     
  18. gschroeder

    gschroeder Member

    Jun 18, 2001
    Thornton, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Really that big? I thought the largest was around 120 x75. 150x100 is giant.
     
  19. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    (LOTG say 130 yds by 100 yds maximum for International matches.)

    Also it belongs in another thread but the LOTG say minimum of one yard back for the side boards, nothing about not having them further back than that.
     

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