The Love Song of T. Jordan Pefok: Siebatcheu at Borussia Mönchengladbach

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  1. YankatOxford

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    #1976 YankatOxford, Sep 15, 2021
    Confirmation that we shouldn’t always ask “How?”

    “How many?” still super important.
     
  2. LouisZ

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    #1977 LouisZ, Sep 15, 2021
    Good question. I watch him a few times, and nothing he says was of any substance. I suppose he is there to give a USA prospective of a given play. "Was that a penalty?" Mexican commentator asks, Balboa replies "I'm not sure, but I don't want the game to be decided on a penalty play [a few seconds later], but it is a penalty".
     
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    #1978 lmorin, Sep 15, 2021
    Good analysis :confused:
     
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  4. The Irish Rover

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    #1979 The Irish Rover, Sep 15, 2021
    Well, I did post his just after the red card.

    You could say that my analysis was Pefoked by events . . .
     
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  5. freisland

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    #1980 freisland, Sep 16, 2021
    And still didn't seem to sleep with anyone else's wife.
     
  6. freisland

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    #1981 freisland, Sep 16, 2021
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    I'd never heard the name in France or Canada so I looked into it a bit ago - from what I could tell it appears it's most likely a Cameroonian name given a French spelling, fwiw. But there's probably folks out there know better than what I could glean on-line.

    (I mostly based this conclusion on the fact that nearly every Siebatcheu I found listed on-line or linkedin was connected to Cameroon, but the spelling is clearly some kind of French language construction.)
     
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  7. butters59

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    #1982 butters59, Sep 16, 2021
    Apparently neither.
     
  8. The Irish Rover

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    #1983 The Irish Rover, Sep 16, 2021
    "I have often been compelled to eat my words and I have to say that I have found them to make a very wholesome diet."
    W.S. Churchill :p
     
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  9. Alemannia

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    #1984 Alemannia, Sep 16, 2021
    I have a different theory: I think it was originally the German surname “Siebenschuh” which is not common but not completely unheard of. My guess is that it was eventually Gallicized in Cameroon, likely sometime after Cameroon switched from being a German colony to a French colony.
     
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  10. freisland

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    #1985 freisland, Sep 16, 2021
    Very plausible. For sure I have not found a lot of Siebatcheu's in France or Franco-Canada (and those I have seem to have Cameroonian roots). It also doesn't seem to be super common in Cameroon either, but I'd guess it has some origin similar to the above. I wonder if there are other Siebenschuh's in Namibia or the few other places Germany colonized in Africa.
     
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  11. Bruce S

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    #1986 Bruce S, Sep 16, 2021
    Who is that Pe-Foker? Jordan at Young Boys.
     
  12. Footsatt

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    #1987 Footsatt, Sep 17, 2021
    Wow! This commentator.

    First he says it is a "miss hit" then he says "he is a substitute and not really up to the speed of the game"

     
  13. Casper

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    #1988 Casper, Sep 17, 2021
    Hilarious. Not sure how it's a mishit as he throws his body at it and puts it on frame exactly where he wanted to - because he kind of hits it into the ground? Nothing wrong with that in the situation.

    And to say he's not up to the speed of the game? The guy who literally just out-reacted everyone to the loose ball to win the game? Could you spare a tiny compliment?

    He even blamed the wrong United player first. It's really an amazing minute of announcing mistakes. An MLS team should hire him.
     
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    #1989 m vann, Sep 17, 2021
    I watched the game live. “You don’t like to see forwards back there”. Listen closely. The commentator was talking about Lingard as the substitute not Pefok. He’s saying Lingard had no business being in that area to even send a back pass. Lingard was poor - not just in that sequence - in his 17 minute appearance. He looked lost. The commentator mentioned that a few times about Lingard.
     
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  15. Footsatt

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    #1990 Footsatt, Sep 17, 2021
    Ah yes, you are correct with the speed of play comment.

    ...But i still think he's saying Pefok mishit it.
     
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    #1991 m vann, Sep 17, 2021
    He does say “mishit” but what I think he means is that Pefok didn’t hit it cleanly which he didn’t. But he got enough of the ball to put it away. I think that’s all he’s saying. Not a great choice of wording but I really don’t think the commentator meant “mishit” in the way we think. Efan Ekoku is a pretty well respected commentator but all sorts of things are being missed these days since they are in studio and not onsite for these matches. The are calling the game off monitors and different angles than we see. They don’t have a spotter calling out names. It makes a big difference.
     
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    #1992 BostonRed, Sep 19, 2021
    Not in the squad today for a Swiss Cup match:

     
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    #1993 The Irish Rover, Sep 19, 2021
    That's not surprising. They're playing a team called Illiria Solothurn, which is an ethnic team aimed at bringing immigrants from Albania, Kosovo and North Macedonia together in na foreign land, They're non-league and almost certainly completely amateur.

    Wagner will be playing the second string in this one
     
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    #1994 BostonRed, Sep 19, 2021
    Definitely one sided already:

     
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    #1995 The Irish Rover, Sep 19, 2021
    6-0 at 6.45 pm local time.

    Is that 6-0 at half-time? :sneaky:
     
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    #1996 BostonRed, Sep 19, 2021
    "Pause" means half-time.
     
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    #1997 The Irish Rover, Sep 19, 2021
    Christ, I was only snarking!


    P.S.
    FWIW Solothurn is the capital of the canton of Solothurn. It has a population of 17k and the canton has 275k in total. An ethnic team in a small town in a small canton is going to be entirely amateur. This could be a blowout of epic proportions :confused:
     
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    #1998 BostonRed, Sep 22, 2021
    Starts:

     
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    #1999 onefineesq, Sep 22, 2021
    And he scores. He just keeps scoring.
     
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