The Youth Thread | U18s, U21s, Next Gen Series

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Fitzgerald#11, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yeah
    No clue. I’m not 100% sure he goes to United, but we will see.
     
  2. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, apparently, he's talking to a lot of clubs. Do you know for sure he's a Yanited fan? Charles Watts speculated he was because of the Scandinavian connection, but he admitted he wasn't sure.
     
  3. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I got it from the same source.

    I tend to think he chasing a bag and good for him.
     
  4. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    So he'd make about 750k/yr at Arsenal and 1.5m at United. Either way, a boatload of cash for a 16yo.

    If you think he's a 10m+ asset in a few years it is worth it, as long as you can avoid every other kid wanting the same deal.

     
  5. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good way to quickly get your club in Barca level financial trouble. Every promising academy kid is gonna expect a big contract from them now.
     
  6. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    No they won’t.

    We apparently broke the wage structure for Nwaneri last year to keep him. Arsenal don’t seem Chido as being on that level. That’s how you make sure the top talents get theres. Just like we do with the first team.

    Good luck to him. Making 1.5 million a year at 16 is something we all hope for.
     
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  7. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It is weird—how do you compare the guy scoring 10 goals per match in U18 to the guy who’s the youngest PL player ever? I think they think Ethan was further on at the same age, despite the gaudy numbers Chido put up. But sometimes evaluations like these are very difficult because trajectories are not linear.
     
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  8. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    You would hope that the club have a good read on how each player will develop, being around them every day. Maybe they think Nwaneri won't be swayed by money whereas Chido might party too much and not train as hard.

    That's kind of dangerous too, I'll bet there have been a ton of times when clubs bet on the wrong kid, a lot can change at such a young age. In general, these are pretty low risk, high reward bets. Maybe they lose out on 4 kids making 30k/wk, but if they hit on the 5th it more than makes up for it.
     
  9. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Chido’s hype is social media run amok.
    He could be a baller, but he was also playing for the youths.

    If this stuff was prominent when someone like Eddie Nketiah was going ham, who knows what attention he gets along with salary.
     
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  10. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Doesn't Eddie still hold one of the English national youth team goal scoring records? If he had social media + agent hype back then he would have been referred to as Henry Jnr with his goals.
     
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  11. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    U21 all-time goalscoring yeah
     
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  12. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    its not that complicated.

    Nwaneri is seen as a much better talent.
     
  13. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It’s a lot easier to score goals at that level as defenders are very naive and at a point where their physical potential has got them there rather than their brain (unless a massive potential talent)

    if he scores numbers in the prem we have let a big talent go but it will be interesting to see

    u tied have been known to chuck big money at players and for it not to work
     
  14. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Neither us nor the Danish national team were quite ready to move him up to U21s yet from what I read. Draw whatever inference from that you will.
     
  15. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Idk anything about his talent other than Arsenal don’t rate him higher than Nwaneri who was a must keep.
     
  16. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also seeing claims that ManU may have promised Chido some 1st team minutes this season
     
  17. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    If he's good enough to play for any PL first team this season at ages 16-17, then not paying him 30k/week is malpractice.
     
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  18. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    agreed. supposedly we weren't willing to play him up to the u21s last season. curious why we thought he wasn't ready for u21s and MU seemingly thinks he can play 1st team? Also curious where/how he is gonna get minutes when they play a 1 ST setup and have 2 young 1st team STs.
     
  19. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Wonder if its a case of he isn't ready, Man U give him 5 mins here and there in games they have wrapped up, then when he hits 18 he gets loaned out for a year or two and if he is good enough he breaks into the team at 19/20 and if he isn't he is loaned or sold.
     
  20. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  21. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  23. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Norton-Cuffy is reportedly on his way to Italy for a medical before.joining Genoa on a permanent deal worth £3.5m, half up front and half as add-ons.
     
  24. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    We've seen enough kids look amazing at that level that didn't make it. It's great to see kids doing well, but have to temper that with the realization that if 1-2 kids every five years become regulars, that's a huge win.
     
  25. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    there are more 14yo phenoms that turn into Freddy Adu than Martin Odegaard.
     

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