The Youth Thread | U18s, U21s, Next Gen Series

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Fitzgerald#11, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    harry Kane was 21 when spurs started using him after multiple lower level loans
     
  2. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Came out of nowhere too. But he was loaned out to Leicester when they where in the Championship, and Norwich the season before that when they were in the Premier League.

    Playing in the third division at 21 usually isn't a good sign.
     
  3. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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  4. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Centre backs often bloom late

    be good to see him vs higher level competition
     
  5. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    haven't seen any other details on the game but, man, this is not what i want to see after brentford.

     
  6. InTheSun

    InTheSun Member+

    Oct 20, 2005
    Florida
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I caught a bit of that game, since West Ham was streaming it live on youtube. Can't say I recommend watching the replay. It was embarrassing level of quality, save one or two of our players.
     
  7. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    oof. that sounds painful. :-/
     
  8. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Well, all the good U23 players were playing for the first team, so :cautious:
     
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  9. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It’s a brand new U23 coach too right?
     
  10. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    that's fair. but there's still a chonky bit still available to U23 with the people still waiting on their loan move.
     
  11. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Like who? Once you get past ESR, Gab, Balogun, and Saka, you get to Reiss Nelson and Eddie, and then you get to players like Omar Rekik, Miguel Azeez, and then players most of us haven't heard of.
     
  12. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    huh. didn't realise both john-jules and moller were both already on loan and biereth maybe not having settled in yet. and, apparently, a whole bunch of players who played last year were absent? bird didn't say why.

    not sure why we played a back 3? the only real excuse for that would be if that was dictated by available personnel. otherwise, having 1 formation for U-23 and 1 for main squad is moronic.

    west ham apparently fielded a number of senior level players as well. that doesn't help.
     
  13. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I thought John jules was hyped up, patino too
     
  14. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    yeah, i recall a lot of hype with john-jules. i guess they're trying to be better about getting kids out to get first team experience after a couple of years at U-23.

    bird thought one of the problem against west ham was patino and azeez might have be too similar and they needed a more defensive-minded partner to balance them out. with azeez looking at loans, i guess patino will be featured this year.

    not sure why taylor-hart was held out. maybe he hadn't been training with the team while sorting out his contract?
     
  15. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Never get too up or down about the results in youth teams. Too many variables week in week out and their primary goal is player development not winning the league.
     
  16. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  17. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you’re trying to tell me Phil Jones is still alive?

    Fake news.

    ETA Holy shit he’s only 29.
     
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  18. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    He was 29 until they move. RIP
     
  19. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
     
  20. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  21. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone been watching highlights of the U23s performances? From what I can tell they have been running a 2 ST setup. Makes sense given the number of STs we have in the youth ranks but still curious. I've always thought that the youth teams tend to adopt the Sr setup in order to better prepare players for a move up.
     
  22. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    it makes the most logical sense (to run the same formation/setup) but i don't think they always do.

    also they might have been running eddie on the left like arteta was experimenting with during the preseason.
     
  23. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The latest example is in our u23's 6-1 thrashing of Chelsea u23 where it appears we are playing Balogun & Biereth as a ST pair. I mostly bring it up because I have been a big proponent of trying a 4-2-2-2 ever since we signed PEA (he and Laca in a pair up top). On top of that the MF & FWs we have in the academy seem to be a better fit for this concept. And I still think it would be a good fit for our current 1st team...

    ST - PEA, Laca, Eddie, Balogun, Martinelli, Pepe
    W/AM - Saka, ESR, Pepe, Martinelli, MO, AMN
    CM - Partey, Xhaka, Lakonga, AMN, Elneny, MO
     
  24. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    6-1 thrashing... AFTER going down to 10 men. I know its u23s but ********ing hell even still.
     
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