The Weston McKennie USA N&A thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by xbhaskarx, Dec 16, 2022.

  1. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    He played like the 2022-23 Wes yesterday, not the one last year.

    He keeps that up he will get minutes. Motta has shown he is going to rotate and use the entire squad.

    And one thing the old Wes was good at was getting into the box to help the attack. The lack of any help in the box for Dusan was clear against Empoli. He was often the only person there.

    That problem was solved yesterday with multiple players making runs in with Wes and Koop being the most prominent. Good start to his 'new" Juve career.
     
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  2. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    It's weird. Wes looked very poor and lethargic for the US this summer. Then, he defies the powers that be who want him out, works his butt off and makes a splash at Juve when no one expected him to. When he's focused and in form, he's a player who can really have a big, positive effect on the game. When he's just strolling around, he's a waste of space. I have to wonder if Poch will do a better job of making sure he understands he has to be ready to play every time out with the US as he seems to be willing to do for his club because the US could really use Wes fully focused and playing his best. The guy we saw this summer we could do without.
     
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  3. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    His form was poor for his club down the stretch post shoulder injury - curious if he hit a wall mentally and physically or if there was something else going on with his injury.
     
  4. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    He was very bad the last half of last season. But so was the rest of the team.

    New coach, new approach, new teammates, new extension. Hopefully this is the Wes we see all year.
     
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  5. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
  6. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    My theory is that Juve do the transfer tap dance routine every summer to keep him from overpartying in the offseason.
     
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  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Quite impressive for Beasley back in the day!
     
  8. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #259 Clint Eastwood, Sep 19, 2024
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    I do think there's a younger generation of fans who don't realize how good the pre-injury Beasley was at PSV.

    I actually thought he had more than 4 goals in the Champions League. Didn't he have 4 for PSV in 04/05 and 2 for Rangers in 07/08???

    Maybe they're not counting goals in the qualifying rounds or something.

    I mean, Beasley played in the semifinal of a Champions League with PSV. Back when Eredivisie clubs did that. And they were only eliminated from the semifinal on away goals.

    Anyway, my point in posting that was to simply say that maybe McKennie isn't considered the "Bees Knees" by Juventus fans. That's fine. But that doesn't change the fact that he's achieving things in club soccer that very few American-born players have.

    Current top 10 of Champions League appearances:

    Pulisic 55
    Dest 28
    McKennie 25
    Jones 23
    Beasley 23
    Reyna 18
    Tillman 16
    Adams 14
    Aaronson 14
    Kljestan 14

    Pepi (9) and Carter-Vickers (8) have a chance to move into the top 10 this year depending on how things go for their clubs.
     
  9. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems they do it with a lot of their players so overpartying doesn't seem the reason. More like trying to get blood from a turnip.
     
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  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Throw some praise on Kljestan!
     
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  11. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the goal against PSV, McKennie surpasses Beasley to become the second-leading American goalscorer of all time in the Champions League.

    Sorry, had to edit that one. It read like fingernails on a chalkboard.
     
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  12. WrmBrnr

    WrmBrnr Member+

    Apr 12, 2001
    San Carlos
    He realized he had to actually work.
     
  13. autohag

    autohag Member

    Jun 7, 2014
    Club:
    Trois Rivieres Attak
    Well, I'll take McKennie on my pick up team any day. The rest of you can have your statistics.

    He's starting and scoring in a CL match for one of the best coaches in Italy, and if you watched the CL the last couple of days you might notice that that means something.
     
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  14. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That he's #2 all time in CL while being so polarizing is pretty odd. I think a lot is based on his health and recovery from injury to get the most out of what he's good at. Thinking he plays hurt a lot and looks lazy when not at least 90% recovered.
     
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  15. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    #266 IndividualEleven, Sep 20, 2024
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    McKennie is like the popular kid who knows all the cute girls, cool social media, memes, TV shows, and musical groups, yet still made salutatorian. It rubs some folks the wrong way.
     
  16. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also everyone knows he's the one who put Muenster cheese in the vice principals car but he got away with it because the soccer team needed him!
     
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  17. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    He’s playing Fortnite while his peers are talking tactics during the World Cup final. Clearly he’s the coolest.
     
  18. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Never minding fan opinion, I do think the impression Wes gives of not necessarily being the most dedicated player hurts him a bit in the eyes of a club, like Juventus. But he's making it work, regardless.
     
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  19. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    It rubs this folk the wrong way when he plays like dog-doodie, like he did this summer. He was also fat, though whether that was why he played poorly, I leave to the experts here.
     
  20. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Yet, Wes is playing in UCL and scoring. Others, including the coach, also had poor summers.
     
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  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    The two aren't mutually exclusive.

    Wes can be one of the most accomplished players in the history of the USMNT in terms of his club career (He's 26 and has played over 250 games in the Bundesliga, Premier League, and Serie A)...............while also being criticized by Juve or USMNT fans for less-that-ideal aspects of his game.

    People will remember that EVERY USMNTer in Europe has also had that issue. Cuz unless you're Lionel Messi, folks will always be demanding more. Even if you're friggin' Cristiano Ronaldo, there will be people telling you "you're not Messi." There's always somebody else doing more.

    So fan criticism is just part of the deal. Fans wanting more is just part of the deal.
     
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  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
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  23. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That didn't take long. It's a Texas thang. Love to hear him talk to Dempsey about it.
     
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  24. autohag

    autohag Member

    Jun 7, 2014
    Club:
    Trois Rivieres Attak
    Right and some people actually need time off to physically or mentally recover to be their best.

    Whether it's " laziness" or something else we now have Mister Pochettino to sort it out.

    If you believe in the squad reaching its full potential, getting the best out of this guy is a crucial part.
     
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