The US Supreme Court Thread - Post Roe v. Wade reversal edition

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    It is. And many of them will sit for decades. Maybe time to expand it in a 2nd Biden term.
     
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  2. dapip

    dapip Member+

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  3. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

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    Wow!! That is insane. I really hope goes for it in his 2nd term.
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
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    As it is now, yes, it is beyond redemption. The minority party controls it, which is problematic enough. Worse is that since Justices decide when to leave unless they die, these partisans are going to time their retirements to ensure continued control, like Kennedy just did. So that means unless the Dems win like 5 elections in a row, there’s no path to get the Supreme Court in line with the nation.
     
  5. ceezmad

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    You need to control the Senate for that.
     
  6. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    Not just control, you need to have 60 votes to do it. There is no chance of SCOTUS being expanded as you will never get a single Republican Senator to vote for cloture on a bill that expands it.
     
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  7. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Smile, Hillary! Inspire me and my bored libertarian frat brothers!
     
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  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    OK, we go the MAGA route. Presidents get full immunity. Biden wins or doesnt win - doesn't matter. He never leaves. He removes Con justices by force. Then appoints Libs in their place.
     
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  9. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
     
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  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    My hope is that if Biden wins, they go after Thomas for corruption charges.
     
  11. Sounders78

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    Here you go!

     
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  12. Auriaprottu

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    You DO realize that, as wonderful, equitabke and nice a country thaybwould create for ALL Americans, it woukd be derided as TOTL. The outcome doesn't matter anymore, we're now passing judgement on the process...
     
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  13. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Libertarians probably think they'll be fine when the dust settles.

    Given they're overwhelmingly White, it's probably true.
     
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  14. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    But make sure you all show up in overwhelming numbers in November, rain or shine or bullet dodging, so you can elect members of congress and the president that can propose and sign legislation you want into law…. that will immediately be reversed by this SCOTUS.
     
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  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    The Senate rewrites its rules every session and the filibuster is one of those rules. So no, they don’t need 60 votes, they just need 51 willing to get rid of the filibuster. Well, 50 since in this scenario we are assuming a Democratic president.
     
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  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    That's great until Republicans take over and Democrats have no way to put up roadblocks on legislation they don't want.
     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

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    Jul 23, 2004
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    GOP will already do this as soon as it gets the chance - surely we have learned that lesson by now.
     
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  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    1. So? That’s democracy.
    2. For the foreseeable future, in all seriousness, they don’t have a legislative agenda beyond tax cuts. And th y can do those via reconciliation anyway.
    3. They get what they want in the end from the courts anyway.
     
  19. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    Yes, they do. Look at the state level where they control the governments and you will see exactly what their agenda is. They will do it at the national level as soon as they get the chance.
     
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  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    That'd be Sleepy Merrick or an AG with balls?
     
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  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    They’ve tried that stu in hard right states because they can pass the laws. But they recently had unified control and didn’t do any of those things.

    Maybe times have changed and they’d do it the next time they have unified control. Or maybe they wouldn’t because that stuff is so unpopular.

    Finally, I get that you have to turn every issue into one where LGBTQ is front and center :rolleyes: but a) having a functioning democracy is a precursor to protecting minority rights, so it has to be the first priority and b) I think I need to remind you that the GOPs can get rid of the filibuster too. Having watched the last 8+ years I don’t think Republicans will ever show self restraint. They will only show restraint if they’re stopped, of if they fear voters.
     
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  22. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    You have to stand before you can walk. They didn't have a favorable Supreme Court. They do now.



    They have no qualms pursuing unpopular legislation.



    Completely irrelevant to what I wrote.
     
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  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Agreed. Look no further than abortion bans and, now, IVF bans. Neither one of these bans are popular, but the Republican party wants to do that.
     
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  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Maybe Merrick could start small and invesitage who paid all of Kavanaugh's debts. My bet it was that sneaky liddle private school bastard Squi! :mad:
     
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  25. Smurfquake

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    Aug 8, 2000
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    The Republicans didn't have 60 votes in the Senate in 2017, so they couldn't pass anything except for their one reconciliation bill per year without getting some Democratic votes. They used one of their reconciliation votes to pass the Trump tax cuts, but the rest of their wackadoodle agenda, they had no chance, because of the 60 vote requirement at the time.

    Also, Roe v Wade hadn't been overturned yet, so passing national abortion stuff in Congress at the time was pointless.

    For what it's worth, I agree with you that Democrats should change the rules if they have full control in January, and I also think that Republicans will do that at their earliest opportunity, because demographics will only make it harder and harder for them to get full control as time goes by, and because they're collectively crazier now than they were in 2017.
     
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