The US Supreme Court Thread - Post Roe v. Wade reversal edition

This.

And I think too many people who live in comfortably blue states or swing states underestimate how that toxic sentiment has spread to areas within their state.

 

When was that NOT true?

 

First, you are mixing their capacity to cause some bloodshed with the capacity to actually prop up a MAGA dictatorship in Washington. That is much harder.
There is a reason why, in history, urban revolts succeeded much more often than peasant uprisings. In a modern country, the cities have always been the centers of political gravity. It is much easier for the people of New York, Chicago or Washington to take to the streets than for rural folk from Iowa, South Dakota or Texas to assemble together in sufficient numbers, travel across the country and take concerted action to defend a MAGA dictatorship.
Once you have lost control of the major cities, you are going down.
Again, if a serious revolt occurs, Trump or whoever will be in charge will have to rely on the National Guard and the Army, not on some idiots from rural Midwest. And I would not bet on the dictator in such a circumstance.

Second, public opinion is not static. Right now, Trump has a chance to be elected because a lot of American have the attention span of a goldfish. However, once the consequences of a MAGA government and their Project 2025 will hit America like a train, Trump will start leaking support like a sieve. Sure, there will always a core group of ideological fans, but how many of the fair-weather Trump supporters will still support Trump when the price of groceries will double and unemployment will be rampant thanks to Trump making a mess of US economy and America's international position?
Add to this the indignation against the MAGA abuses which could have caused such a revolt in the first place and it would be extremely difficult for a government to retain sufficient support to keep itself in power.

 

Total tangent about Romaian Revolution.

As a rugby guy, thr Romanian rugby team no longer being made up of cops and military took a huge tumble in quality for years.

Captain and we'll respected Romanian player Florian Murariu was an officer in the Romanian Army and was shot dead at a roadblock during the 1989 Revolution. They say the soldiers shot him accidentally as he went into crowd to calm them.

 

The original goal was a reaction to school desegregation and separation of church and state taking prayer and scripture out of school.

They stumbled into the abortion thing. It played well, and they ran with it, and that became a main tenet.

 

OYEZ OYEZ OYEZ! It's the 1st Monday in October and we already have an anti female health decision. Con justices must've had a restful summer to get their radical batteries charged.

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The notion that a social media operator would claim 1st Amendment protection in this case is comical. These are publicly available postings he later deleted. What was posted, when and when was it deleted. At least they got something right.

 

Didn't they just rule that hospitals have to follow federal law and provide emergency services (the case was Iowa or some such)?

 

A nice snapshot of public opinion of the federal judiciary and SCOTUS:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/651527/party-divisions-views-supreme-court-keep-ratings-low.aspx

highlights:

48% still have a great deal/fair amount of the federal judicial branch as a whole

44% still approve of the SCOTUS. Not surpassingly, this varies a lot on partisan grounds. 51% disapprove.

13% think SCOTUS is too liberal. 41% about right. 41% too conservative.

The court/judiciary is not where it needs to be to do something as dramatic as SCOTUS expansion in what would be perceived as a heavy handed partisan move. Federal judicial branch confidence is on the low end of where wealthy liberal democracies stand. 60 was the average in the latest world values survey data for that subset of countries. Lowest in order: Slovakia (36), Italy (40), Czech (46), Spain (47), Lithuania (48), Cyprus+Portugal (49), Latvia (56), Estonia+Taiwan+USA (57), Canada+France (58). That was for the court system overall. I suspect the US has slipped here but is still higher than when we focus only on the federal level at 48.

JMO, but confidence/faith needs to be at the very bottom of that list and the median respondent shouldn’t think the partisanship of SCOTUS is “about right” in its decision making. If elected, priority one of the Harris comms team should be to highlight the inconsistencies of SCOTUS decisions, the impact those decisions have on everyday people, and how those decisions privilege those of extreme wealth and corporations. There are a couple coequal top priorities but this must be one of them. Future fed and SCOTUS appointments and elections must be tied to the court through this lens with zero subtlety. Faith in the courts must be lower, the majority of the public needs to view the court as too conservative and the court must be viewed as a tool through a populist anti 95%+ of the country lens.

 

Dems are always slow on the uptake. Start a Federalist Society for liberalism. Hell, we'll even take centrism at this point. Get it back to the court of the 50s thru 70s

 

50-70 was the most liberal court in our history. That'd be nice but I doubt anyone here will be alive when that happens again.

 

Idaho this summer. They didn’t rule but instead punted it back to the lower courts, effectively providing a temporary stay. IIRC, they focused on a few very limited issues related specifically to Idaho and asked the lower court to clarify.

 

Maybe this just applies to Texass.

 

Coincided with the end of Jim Crow and growth of civil rights, rise of the post-war middle class and unions and CEOs not making 250X the salary of the average employee. Ahh, the good ol' pre-Reagan days (wipes tear)

 

Vote accordingly

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It's too late. Becky didn't see this coming and stood by her man, so to speak, in 2016

 

It only applies to TX. For now. But it is now guidance for every conservative state in the country on what they can and can not put into similar laws.

 

And it was a total chickenshit way of doing this, by providing no decision or explanation, just refusing to hear it.

Nice life you had there, a good chunk of pregnant women and their spouses.