The U.S. Immigration Catch-All Thread [R]

bigsoccertst1 · Mar 7, 2026

A US-born citizen was slain by an ICE agents several months ago in March 2025, the young man was Hispanic.

Martinez' fatal shooting case became public in Feb 2026, six days before a Texas grand jury refused to indict those ICE officers. Enough time has passed that his car companion and witness on that day died three days before the Texas grand jury decision (unrelated car accident).

Texas Department of Public Safety released body cam video showing Martinez was killed in different circumstances to what ICE documents alleged.

Before we return to shallow observations like: "no press coverage due to skin tone", "ICE protests were about dead white US citizens", "his mom voted for Trump, there you go".... does anyone know whether the murder investigations of two US citizens in Minnesota have made any progress?

soccernutter · Mar 7, 2026

bigsoccertst1 said: ↑

Before we return to shallow observations like: "no press coverage due to skin tone", "ICE protests were about dead white US citizens", "his mom voted for Trump, there you go".... does anyone know whether the murder investigations of two US citizens in Minnesota have made any progress?
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First, not sure where you are getting the tone/message of this forum based on what you put in quotes. The "no press coverage" is incorrect, both from what reality and from what we say. We have consistently said "lack of press coverage due to skin tone," though it is a point debated. The question, though, isn't about the press coverage, but about the outrage. Regarding the "ICE protests were about dead white US citizens"...huh? Nobody has said anything close to that in this forum. We have long talked about protests in various locations for months and months prior to the killings of Good and Pretti. As to the "his mom voted for Trump" bit, that is usually only from a couple of posters. If that comes up in discourse in general, it is because there is something that raises a question to us, in general.

Second, depends on what you mean by "progress" and what the starting is from which you are asking. For example:
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/lawfare-daily--the-trials-of-the-trump-administration--feb.-6 (I read the transcript for this part)

Roger Parloff: Yeah, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, which is the body that normally helps investigate these sorts of cases sued to when they were excluded from the crime scene—they had actually, I think we mentioned last week, they actually got a search warrant, even though it was a public space. But they could, would not, were not allowed in.

They had obtained a TRO last week to prevent destruction or altering of the evidence. That was before the government had even filed a response. So the government did file a response. And then there was a hearing—and also it, so the government wanted to dissolve this, and the bureau wanted to also get additional access to the evidence.

The judge dissolved the TRO and did not give them access. It's Eric Tostrud, he is a Trump appointee. He said, though the record is not one-sided, the greater weight of the evidence shows defendants are not likely to destroy or improperly alter evidence related to Mr. Pretti's shooting during the life of this case.

So, yeah there is some progress as in there are steps being taken to move this forward. But there is also no progress because the judge, at least in the Pretti killing, is saying that evidence does not need to have a TRO to preserve evidence.

Yoshou · Mar 7, 2026

superdave said: ↑

Keep in mind that Trump let Noem go up to Capitol Hill to be humiliated with questions about Lewandowski even though he was gonna fire her the next day.

I have no doubt in my mind that Trump’s porn browser history is all humiliation and/or sadism. It’s his kink.
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Wasn't the allegation that she was fired because of her response to one of the questions in that hearing tho?
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soccernutter · Mar 7, 2026

Pretty much. It has been reported that there were a number of factors he didn't like, but what caused him to fire her from Homeland was the response to the $200m in advertising, saying that Trump approved it.

rslfanboy · Mar 13, 2026

It looks like an interment camp might. E back in the menu for Salt Lake City.

https://www.ksl.com/article/5146335...ncern-an-immigrant-detention-center-is-coming

An initial attempt by ICE to buy a large warehouse was leaked, protested, and dropped. This one flew under the radar until the sale was registered.

Cascarino's Pizzeria · Mar 13, 2026

Large crowd in South Burlington, VT protests ICE snatchings

https://bsky.app/profile/northjules.bsky.social/post/3mgwpxlj4mk2q

DGreat · Mar 13, 2026

Cascarino's Pizzeria said: ↑

Large crowd in South Burlington, VT protests ICE snatchings

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https://bsky.app/profile/northjules.bsky.social/post/3mgwpxlj4mk2q
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Vermont? I am not familiar with the immigration population in the area. I am genuinely surprised to see ICE there.

Cris 09 · Mar 13, 2026

DGreat said: ↑

Vermont? I am not familiar with the immigration population in the area. I am genuinely surprised to see ICE there.
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Canadians!!!!!!!

Cascarino's Pizzeria · Mar 13, 2026

DGreat said: ↑

Vermont? I am not familiar with the immigration population in the area. I am genuinely surprised to see ICE there.
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Blue state, hippies. Immigrants turn up in unlikely places. My brother lives 30 minutes from a large Somali population in Lewiston, Maine.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2019/1028/Refugees-poured-into-my-state.-Here-s-how-it-changed-me

DGreat · Mar 13, 2026

Cascarino's Pizzeria said: ↑

Blue state, hippies. Immigrants turn up in unlikely places. My brother lives 30 minutes from a large Somali population in Lewiston, Maine.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2019/1028/Refugees-poured-into-my-state.-Here-s-how-it-changed-me
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Interesting read. Thanks

bigsoccertst1 · Mar 14, 2026

soccernutter said: ↑

First, not sure where you are getting the tone/message of this forum based on what you put in quotes. The "no press coverage" is incorrect, both from what reality and from what we say. We have consistently said "lack of press coverage due to skin tone," though it is a point debated. The question, though, isn't about the press coverage, but about the outrage. Regarding the "ICE protests were about dead white US citizens"...huh? Nobody has said anything close to that in this forum. We have long talked about protests in various locations for months and months prior to the killings of Good and Pretti. As to the "his mom voted for Trump" bit, that is usually only from a couple of posters. If that comes up in discourse in general, it is because there is something that raises a question to us, in general.

Second, depends on what you mean by "progress" and what the starting is from which you are asking. For example:
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/lawfare-daily--the-trials-of-the-trump-administration--feb.-6 (I read the transcript for this part)
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The judge dissolved the TRO and did not give them access. It's Eric Tostrud, he is a Trump appointee. He said, though the record is not one-sided, the greater weight of the evidence shows defendants are not likely to destroy or improperly alter evidence related to Mr. Pretti's shooting during the life of this case.

So, yeah there is some progress as in there are steps being taken to move this forward. But there is also no progress because the judge, at least in the Pretti killing, is saying that evidence does not need to have a TRO to preserve evidence.
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"Lack of coverage" might apply to that US citizen's case: murdered 364 days ago, press coverage started 19 days ago.

His murder occurred outside the sphere of social media, which helps explain why press coverage started after Newsweek staff obtained ICE data through an FOIA request.

All forum members are entitled to their opinion. Mine is that opportunistic commentary on this thread was rather frequent before my post. Meanwhile, one US citizen murder case is now effectively buried, while two more are in progress of being silenced.

Thanks very much for providing the information about Pretti's case suppression at a federal level, despite state agencies' efforts. Hopefully, it will be overturned before enough time passes when even witnesses pass away, like in Martinez' case.

ElNaranja · Mar 16, 2026

Help the US fight against Al Queda. Made a resident of US for your efforts. Arrested by ICE and killed in custody during deportation efforts for being brown.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/asia/afghan-asylum-seeker-dies-less-24-hours-ice-custody-rcna263626

Mohommad Nazeer Paktyawal, 41, died of unknown causes Saturday, a day after he was taken into custody outside his apartment complex in the Dallas suburb of Richardson.

In a statement Sunday, ICE described Paktyawal as a “criminal illegal alien from Afghanistan” and said his death was under investigation.

Paktyawal, a father of six who had applied for U.S. asylum, was about to take his children to school Friday morning when he was surrounded by masked men who drove up and put him in handcuffs, Rahmanullah Zazy, a family friend and leader in the local Afghan community, told NBC News in an interview.
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These people have no souls, no redeeming qualities.

soccernutter · Mar 16, 2026

Well done, ICE + DOJ. From Xwitter

Federal prosecutors move to dismiss another Midway Blitz indictment, this time against Jose Mauricio Rosas-Hernandez.

Once the motion is granted, 20 of the 32 known defendants will have been cleared.

Two more are on track for dismissal.

It was dismissed today.

charlie15 · Mar 16, 2026

This mothe********er is retiring.....You can run but you can't hide though......

“Outspoken Border Patrol official Gregory Bovino is retiring from federal service at the end of this month, after being pulled away from a high-profile role leading immigration raids in major U.S. cities,” CBS News reports.

soccernutter · Mar 16, 2026

charlie15 said: ↑

This mothe********er is retiring.....You can run but you can't hide though......

“Outspoken Border Patrol official Gregory Bovino is retiring from federal service at the end of this month, after being pulled away from a high-profile role leading immigration raids in major U.S. cities,” CBS News reports.
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He's retiring because he got pushed out. Glad he's gone. Now, he just needs a serious investigation.

Cascarino's Pizzeria · Mar 17, 2026

Some employees are standing up to their ICE-friendly employers

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...n-corecivic-contract-worker-resistance-trump/

superdave · Mar 17, 2026

^^^^^^^^^^

I haven’t even gotten to the meat of the article, I’m only a few paragraphs in. The discussion of prison design is amazing, nd worth your time.

Recommend

dapip · Mar 18, 2026

That's a very unique case. The rest of the article highlights how Corporate America will keep working with ICE if it means higher profits.

superdave · Mar 18, 2026

Rand Paul is probably going to vote against Mullin’s confirmation, but Fetterman is probably going to vote the other way. That would mean Mullin gets out of committee by a single vote. ******** you Fetterman. I hope they go after your formerly undocumented wife, you volunteer for the leopard’s menu.

Now, maybe there would still be a way for Thune to get the nomination out of committee. So maybe Fetterman’s approval just moves the nomination along a bit faster. I stand by my previous statement…******** Fetterman.

ElNaranja · Mar 19, 2026

This is fine.

https://www.npr.org/2026/03/18/nx-s1-5739257/ice-officers-dna-protesters-database

Video of the incident, reviewed by NPR, shows a masked federal officer running at Ben and slamming him to the ground. Three immigration officers pinned him down and dragged him to their vehicle. Ben says he was held in custody for about three hours. Before his release, officers photographed and fingerprinted him. Then, before Ben realized fully what was happening, an officer ran a swab, similar to a Q-tip, along the inside of his cheek.

"It was super casual," Ben says. "It was just like, 'okay, yeah so we're going to take this now.'"
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ICE is collecting DNA from people. I'm sure nothing nefarious is happening there.

Don't they need a warrant to collect that evidence (to use legally)?

rslfanboy · Mar 19, 2026

Oh. Great.

https://www.ksl.com/article/5146840...resses-support-for-immigrant-detention-center

Utah Gov Cox

"My thoughts — we need an ICE facility. We need to get the right kind of ICE facility," he said Thursday at a press conference with Utah reporters that covered a range of topics.
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diablodelsol · Mar 19, 2026

John Fetterman can DIAF.

Dr. Wankler · Mar 19, 2026

diablodelsol said: ↑

John Fetterman can DIAF.
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By this point, it’s no longer possible to say, “but he’s better than Dr. Oz.”

EDIT: worth pointing out that I have in fact argued that he is better than Dr. Oz

Cascarino's Pizzeria · Mar 19, 2026

diablodelsol said: ↑

John Fetterman can DIAF.
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Should've been his house and not Shapiro's. Should've been his legs pinned to a retaining wall and not Rebecca Bunten's.

rslfanboy · Mar 19, 2026

Dr. Wankler said: ↑

By this point, it’s no longer possible to say, “but he’s better than Dr. Oz.”

EDIT: worth pointing out that I have in fact argued that he is better than Dr. Oz
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Actually, you can say he has been better than Dr. Oz. It is unclear if that will be the case moving forward.