The U.S. Immigration Catch-All Thread [R]

Walz makes his move

At Gov. Walz’s direction, the Minnesota National Guard have been mobilized and are staging to support local law enforcement and emergency management agencies. pic.twitter.com/9b0UpYyKkX

— Minnesota Department of Public Safety (@MnDPS_DPS) January 17, 2026

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I read there's some kind of polar vortex blizzard coming in which will make being outside in Minneapolis pretty miserable for the next week or so. Walz may be thinking that ICE will bail out because they're ********ing wimps, making actual deployment of the national guard on the streets unnecessary, but having them as a backup for weather related emergencies is also a good look.

 

You know that not everyone is non-violent, right? For example, I’m strongly opposed to non-violence when it comes to dealing with violent opponents.

 

The bully theory. You can only stand by idly for so long, turn the other cheek, carry some ABOLISH ICE signs. In the end none of that matters to Fascists. They know right now that there are no effective guardrails in place. They'll keep beating our asses because they consider Libs vermin and they want us dead. It's a WWII replay just on a smaller, American scale.

 

More dead vermin under our "care" Ho-hum whatevs.




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Not sure Hillsborough is an apt comparison when we have a rogue government agency here fully backed by the Trump administration going onto neighborhoods tear gassing and shooting people.

Normals think the killing of Good was abhorrent. And the lady who got run over in Charlottesville. Or even Ashli Babbitt who died as a result of Trumpian lies. I'd guess around 1/3 of America says Good was in the wrong and some of those cretins think she's a sick lesbo who deserved it. We've been over this a million times here. There is no common ground with this Trumpy depravity. Until Libs really think of just getting away from the problem in some way (soft secession), then expect more atrocities as Dem pols continue to say "turn the other cheek" and ICE runs roughshod through some other city.

 

Even Space Force

 

TrumpCo scum won't even expend the normal investigative energy to look at murders of Libs in broad daylight with cameras rolling. Tell me why I shouldn't want them Mussolini'd

 

I made it clear it's what I would do. So just wishful thinking. But I want consequences if we ever return to Normal Times.

Now we need you to come around that our American fascists are already ignoring laws and doing "what is right". They don't care if their opposition is dead. They actually enjoy it. High time Democrats plan for it.

 

ICE isn’t letting attorneys speak to their clients. One of the reasons given is that there are too many, if they let one detainee speak to his attorney they have to let all of them do so.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/lawyers-a...rity-denying-legal-counsel/story?id=129335914

 

As Damon Linker wrote a couple days back. . .

https://www.persuasion.community/p/ice-is-imposing-autocracy-in-minnesota

The Trump administration and its media cheerleaders responded to the shooting of Renee Nicole Good by lying about and demonizing the victim while valorizing the shooter. They also used the event as an occasion to intensify ICE’s actions in the Twin Cities.

According to Mayor Jacob Frey of Minneapolis, there are currently 3,000 ICE officers swarming the city. That’s five times the total number of sworn officers who work on the city’s entire police force. They know they can act with impunity in inflicting violence on anyone they wish—undocumented immigrants, permanent residents, and American citizens.
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This is wrong. And every American whose capacity for moral judgment has not been addled by partisan derangement should recognize it.

Until five minutes ago, nearly anyone who saw these images and read these accounts about any place in the world would conclude, quite reasonably, that the people there were living under a dictatorship. Probable cause, rights of the accused, the need for search warrants, due process of any kind—ICE is proceeding as if such restrictions on government power no longer exist. These are extra-constitutional acts, and they are now happening on the streets of a major U.S. city every single day. The Trump administration is attempting to turn it into a new American normal.

Call it authoritarianism, dictatorship, tyranny. Take your pick. It really doesn’t matter. The difference between life in a functional liberal democracy and life in a dictatorship is that in the former every citizen—as well as noncitizens to varying extents—has recourse to the law. The law applies to everyone. These laws, along with long-established rules and norms, limit state action against individuals. We all know this. Nearly every Republican knew this and swore by it as part of our national creed until, again, about five minutes ago.​

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Cold in Minneapolis but this is the right temperature in fighting TrumpNazis



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^^^^^^^^

It’s good that 3000 counter protestors showed up.

Before soccernutter gets here, let me point out their attitude is perilously close to antifascist violence. It’s pretty easy to imagine one overeager counter protestors doing something that sets off a murderous rampage against the fascists.

We joke a lot about punching Nazis. I’m no pacifist; I look at punching Nazis on a case by case basis.

But murdering them is different.

 

In those cold temps, many of the counter-protestors were throwing water balloons at the white supremacist Lang. But, when he was cornered and the crowd started to get a little unruly, Lang was protected and safely escorted out by a young black man.

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And yet, I would bet that today he is back to spewing the same hate.

 

Have Nazis been defeated any other way?

 

ICE is also targeting the Hmong community now, including this report of detaining a US citizen:

 

Seems like a Catch 22 as MN pols are finding out. Non violence is the preferred method but when does turning the other cheek get to the point where fascists smell weakness and just bowl over the local population? I think we're there in MN and Republican congress critters and the SC ain't gonna save the locals. Best be ready to react if need be.

60 Minutes ran an ICE story and the correspondent was walking down a Minneapolis street with the police chief and a driver yelled out a window "how dare you let this happen here!" Then some choice curses. Easy for us to tell them what to do when we're not dealing with it. I don't fault people for wanting to fight back against an occupying force.

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@soccernutter Good was twice married to men and I believe also had children by two different men. IOW she was probably bi.

 

There’s only been one Nazi regime. Insufficient data available.

More seriously, if we’re going to really debate this, the Trump regime is fascist, not Nazi. I’m not sure how political scientists define the difference. To me, it’s the death camps, it’s genocide in an industrial scale. If we get anywhere near that, Nazi analogies fully apply. But not yet.