The U.S. Immigration Catch-All Thread [R]

Sentencing. As used in a sentence: "It would be like sentencing J.W. Milam and Roy Bryant for murder moments after the not guilty verdict"

At a time like this, it's always kind to remember the original and apex predators. Bryant and Milam lived happy Christian lives even after the Life interview. OJ, on the other hand, was hounded daily by this or that Hakky-Sack playing loser with more money than sense, flinging his hair out of his eyes and whining about a corrupt justice system when said system has benefitted every organism in his bloodline.

If we're going to remember OJ, we should remember him as the guy whose acquittal guaranteed that rich justice from that point forward would be reserved for rich Whites.

 

The MAGA are rejoicing over this move.

So America has decided it can go without its many decades long brain drain and no longer needs or wants some of the brightest minds born abroad.



You can ask yourself the question, if you assumed control of the levers of power in the U.S. and your goal was to substantially and structurally weaken the country long-term, what would you be doing differently from what the Trump regime is currently doing?

 

Besides the point of the Trump policy aimed at Harvard specifically, but I would say that foreign students who had dreamed of studying in America are faced with a conundrum regardless.

I believe you have to be a tiny bit crazy to travel to the U.S. right now even for a short trip.

Studying there is a multi-year commitment, in which you would be living with the sword of Damocles above your head, the only thing to protect you from ICE's impunity a student visa. Something that won't be worth the paper it is printed on if they do decide to go after you.

 

One other thing I have thought about is recruitment. I know of several people who were hired on the commitment to get an American degree, either as part of H-1B requirements or as an entryway into an OPT type arrangement. Essentially you are shutting American companies off from attracting any such candidates with this move.

 

Combine the defending of education and it's the perfect strategy to uh....ummm....well, not sure other than to have an ignorant populace who'll keep voting for the Felon and Friends.

 

If I was one of the rich tech bros that owned Meta, or Alphabet, or whatever, I certainly would like to put a stop to any smart innovative people that could start a company to compete with me.

 

There's a movie about this, back when we weren't so cynical. Anti-trust. Fun movie.

But anywho, what you describe is typical short -term corporate thinking: money now, sustainability doesn't matter.

 

Given the demographic cliff colleges are facing beginning (checks notes) fall of 2026, this is going to seriously damage a lot of colleges not named “Harvard,” because increasing international enrollment has been a plan many colleges have been pursuing in order to make it to 2030. Like the one that employs me.

 

Less competition for a slot for my 16 year old. Maybe not if there are fewer slots.

www.forbes.com/sites/annaesakismith/2025/05/20/us-universities-launch-overseas-campuses-to-beat-visa-hurdles/

Looks like many universities have plans to open campuses overseas to avoid the visa issues and annoying new tendencies of the american government.

 

Fewer international students means a lot less money to pay tenured professors. Fewer tenured professors means more part-time professors who are fearful about the fact they can easily be replaced. What's that? Republicans have been working to eliminate tenure because it means they have less control over what is taught? Well, isn't that a coincidence.

If I was an international student looking for a quality education, I would immediately dismiss the US and focus on the UK, Canada, NZ or Australia. If I were a domestic student looking for a quality education, I would immediately dismiss the US and focus on the UK, Canada, NZ or Australia.

 

If these aren’t the first two questions from the next Dem president’s AG screening committee I may go United health care on them

1)will you prosecute ex Trump officials who have been found to break the law regardless of any DoJ actions by your predecessor
2)will you also file charges against anyone who received a pardon from Trump for those same acts under the theory that pardoning co conspirators for crimes you ordered is the equivalent of a self pardon and therefore unconstitutional
3)if asked directly during your confirmation hearings about your affirmative answers to the first two questions are you willing to lie your ass off just like every single trump appointee that was put up for confirmation during both of his terms…just in case there remain pussy ass bitch dem senators who get squeamish by your answers to one and two?

That is the test. And the bare minimum for nomination.

Edit…ok first three. Math is hard.

 

Such hearings won't happen because the return to normalcy won't happen with a simple election. Something far more sweeping needs to occur at this point.

 

This.

If Trump had lost last year, maybe the US could have just employed its superpower of forgetting anything inconvenient or hard and just white knuckled onwards. But he didn’t lose. Our politics can only be fixed by an extended commitment, at least 3 elections/6 years, maybe more.

 

I seriously doubt the Dems, on the whole, have the fortitude or desire to put in this work. I'd imagine that's a large factor in their terrible favorability polling.

 

I went to Exeter for grad school in the mid 2000s and it was worth not going into debt. An accelerated course (1 year) instead of stringing it out to 2 years and at £ 20,000.

 

Then we’re ********ed

 

My outside perspective is that the Dems biggest problem is their leadership's insistence to treat this moment as more or less business as usual and not the possible death rattle of the Republic. It's time to break every "break in case of emergency" case, not color in the margins. You can see it in who they choose to give primacy, which is exhaustively a denial of the situation they are in. They need to elevate those voices that are clear through both their communication and actions in the knowledge that they are fighting for the survival of American democracy.

 

But...but...all that would be left are football and basketball players studying for their Doctorate!

Ps...i before e except after c sometimes!

 

I knew Trump and R’s were doing much better with Latinos than in the past, didn’t expect to see polling this high thought

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A really good sign that the border is much more under control and manageable for our border agents

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