The U.S. Immigration Catch-All Thread [R]

Germerica · May 10, 2025

soccernutter said: ↑

So, they can arrest people without identification or being identifiable. Do you understand how problematic that is?

(And, yes, because you make assumptions, I am against doxxing.)
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I think it’s fine if the show their ID to the person being arrested, like the FBI generally does when they show up at folks doors.

ElNaranja · May 10, 2025

So the DEI, if consistent (lol, I know) is against all those times ICE rolled up on someone in an unmarked van, jumped out without badge, uniform, or warrant, and threw people into the van and drove off?

Yeah, I know.

chaski · May 10, 2025

ElNaranja said: ↑

So the DEI, if consistent (lol, I know) is against all those times ICE rolled up on someone in an unmarked van, jumped out without badge, uniform, or warrant, and threw people into the van and drove off?

Yeah, I know.
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We don’t need no stinking badges!

luftmensch · May 10, 2025

chaski said: ↑

We don’t need no stinking badges!
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msilverstein47 · May 11, 2025

with the cooperation of local Worcester (MA) police...sigh:

“They’re Trying to Kidnap Someone” – Mother Jones

Germerica · May 11, 2025

In case any here are genuinely interested

Let’s check the tape. https://t.co/1S66cGSxct pic.twitter.com/LqEFhTrnYl
— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) May 11, 2025

Belgian guy · May 11, 2025

superdave · May 12, 2025

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/12/politics/white-south-africans-refugee-status-arrive-us

The Trump administration is granting refugee status to white South Africans. The first group has arrived.

superdave · May 12, 2025

https://www.si.com/soccer/nashville...cott-charlotte-match-cite-immigration-arrests

Nashville’s Latino supporter group is concerned that they’ll be targeted by ICE at tailgates.

https://www.si.com/soccer/nashville...cott-charlotte-match-cite-immigration-arrests

Germerica · May 12, 2025

Unemployed people looking for camera time

NEW: Arrests happening in Newark. Two people cuffed after blocking the gates to this ICE facility for hours. Police asked them to move and leave the property many times. @DHSgov @FoxNews pic.twitter.com/3S6SgLEsz3
— Alexis McAdams (@AlexisMcAdamsTV) May 12, 2025

Yoshou · May 13, 2025

Welp, ICE is officially detaining US citizens at the border for their political views. Streamer and pro-Palestinian activist Hassan Piker claims he was detained by ICE after being pulled aside for additional questioning by CBP while returning to the US from France. Despite having his passport, he was sent to an ICE detention center to be questioned about his political views, thoughts on Trump, and his Twitch bans. The government says he wasn't detained for his political views.. Just routine questions to grill a US citizen about their political views and opinions on Trump.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2jwk6gjp1o

soccernutter · May 13, 2025

Sorry, couldn't unroll.

Roger Parloff
@rparloff

A month after SCOTUS ordered govt to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s return, parties filed briefs last night over “state secrets” & “deliberative process” privileges. On 5/7 Secy Rubio filed sealed declaration claiming that any “agreement” with Bukele is a “state secret.” ... 1/5

I encourage everybody to read. Basically, Rubio is saying they can't argue for a return because any discovery in court would unlock state secrets. Garcia's team is calling bullshit, and that the US Government has been compelled to facilitate Garcia's return, saying they would try, but that senior admin officials are saying they have no plans to allow Garcia to return. Garcia's team is asking Xinis to review privately (in-camera) and then rule.

Yoshou · May 13, 2025

soccernutter said: ↑

Garcia's team is asking Xinis to review privately (in-camera) and then rule.
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Which I'm sure the government will allow to happen. LOL. Sorry, it's not just secret, it's double-super-secret that even the courts can't know about.

Germerica · May 13, 2025

Wisconsin judge has been indicted for helping illegal immigrant evade federal authorities

Belgian guy · May 14, 2025

Germerica · May 14, 2025

Per LA Times

Gov. Newsom calls for walking back free healthcare for illegal aliens in California as costs for coverage have exceeded billions more than what was initially projected & the state faces likely challenging economic times ahead.

soccernutter · May 14, 2025

Belgian guy said: ↑

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Apparently, there is video, according to this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/waltham-mass-ice-arrest-boy-left-alone/

Germerica · May 14, 2025

A federal judge has ruled that Pres. Trump's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged migrant gang members is lawful, in contrast to two other judges.

Kryptonite · May 14, 2025

Cascarino's Pizzeria said: ↑

I know someone who will get a chubby off this

Alfredo Linares and his American wife left Culver City, California, eight weeks ago fearing arrest, detention and deportation.

"Today is my last day right here in the United States after 20 years. It’s time to go,” said Linares, who is undocumented.

“I just felt very emotional and sad that I’m leaving,” said Linares, who opted to self-deport to his native Mexico before being potentially targeted by ICE agents. “I just felt I was going to be picked up and asked questions and all of that.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mixed-status-couple-self-deports-mexico-rcna203481
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All Immigrants Are Criminals?
1913?
1913 just happens to be the birth year of someone the alt-right loves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Axmann

soccernutter · May 14, 2025

@yossarian hopefully you can clear up *cough, cough* some of the opinion from WD PA on regarding the opinion handed down yesterday (all I have is a tweet, and I don't want to link those as they don't always show up).

Basically, as I am reading it, Judge Hines says that TdA is a Foreign Terrorist Orginization (as designated by Rubio) regarding to how it is applied to AEA. Is that correct?

Also, there was a separate opinion handed down on a "class" of people the longer opinion may apply to. Of that, I get she is saying it doesn't apply because:

A) the petitioner is no longer in the WD PA
B) there are no other members of TdA who have been apprehended by ICE in WD PA.
My question: Is this a strict reading? Or is the request by the petitioner to make the scope nationwide normal?

I'm assuming you can find the two opinions. If not, they are on Roder Parloff's twitter account.

chaski · May 14, 2025

This article by a law professor is a good summary of what is going on in all the AEA cases.
https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/150-the-state-of-play-in-the-alien

Yoshou · May 14, 2025

soccernutter said: ↑

@yossarian hopefully you can clear up *cough, cough* some of the opinion from WD PA on regarding the opinion handed down yesterday (all I have is a tweet, and I don't want to link those as they don't always show up).

Basically, as I am reading it, Judge Hines says that TdA is a Foreign Terrorist Orginization (as designated by Rubio) regarding to how it is applied to AEA. Is that correct?

Also, there was a separate opinion handed down on a "class" of people the longer opinion may apply to. Of that, I get she is saying it doesn't apply because:

A) the petitioner is no longer in the WD PA
B) there are no other members of TdA who have been apprehended by ICE in WD PA.
My question: Is this a strict reading? Or is the request by the petitioner to make the scope nationwide normal?

I'm assuming you can find the two opinions. If not, they are on Roder Parloff's twitter account.
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It's worth noting that while the Judge did say that Trump could use AEA to deport accused TdA members, the judge ruled that the administration still has to provide the accused with sufficient notice and grant them due process before they are deported.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...n-enemies-act-to-fast-track-migrant-removals/

That is basically the same ruling that the other courts have used in ruling against the administrations use of AEA and, also, what the lawyers for the men that were deported to El Salvador without due process have been asking for...

yossarian · May 14, 2025

soccernutter said: ↑

@yossarian hopefully you can clear up *cough, cough* some of the opinion from WD PA on regarding the opinion handed down yesterday (all I have is a tweet, and I don't want to link those as they don't always show up).

Basically, as I am reading it, Judge Hines says that TdA is a Foreign Terrorist Orginization (as designated by Rubio) regarding to how it is applied to AEA. Is that correct?
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Yeah, Judge Haines's opinion basically takes the Rubio designation at face value, which right there is a problem as it's patently absurd on its face and is contrary to the other intelligence agencies' characterization of TdA (as noted in a previous post in this thread), ie., it is in no way controlled by or an arm of the Venezuelan government, nor has it "invaded" as any adherent to originalism would construe that term to mean under the AEA.

soccernutter said:

Also, there was a separate opinion handed down on a "class" of people the longer opinion may apply to. Of that, I get she is saying it doesn't apply because:

A) the petitioner is no longer in the WD PA
B) there are no other members of TdA who have been apprehended by ICE in WD PA.
My question: Is this a strict reading? Or is the request by the petitioner to make the scope nationwide normal?
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If I understand what you're asking, chaski's link to Professor Vladeck's article discusses this more clearly than I can.

yossarian · May 14, 2025

Yoshou said: ↑

It's worth noting that while the Judge did say that Trump could use AEA to deport accused TdA members, the judge ruled that the administration still has to provide the accused with sufficient notice and grant them due process before they are deported.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...n-enemies-act-to-fast-track-migrant-removals/

That is basically the same ruling that the other courts have used in ruling against the administrations use of AEA and, also, what the lawyers for the men that were deported to El Salvador without due process have been asking for...
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She actually is requiring a longer notice period than some of the other orders.

soccernutter · May 14, 2025

yossarian said: ↑

Yeah, Judge Haines's opinion basically takes the Rubio designation at face value, which right there is a problem as it's patently absurd on its face and is contrary to the other intelligence agencies' characterization of TdA (as noted in a previous post in this thread), ie., it is in no way controlled by or an arm of the Venezuelan government, nor has it "invaded" as any adherent to originalism would construe that term to mean under the AEA.
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Thanks.

If I understand what you're asking, chaski's link to Professor Vladeck's article discusses this more clearly than I can.
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Is that like making your clerk to all the work?