The Trump supporters thread

Discussion in 'Elections' started by Brilliant Oranje, Nov 8, 2024.

  1. Brilliant Oranje

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    You got an actual audio or video of Trump saying exactly that??
    And please, no CNN or MSNBC articles that claim Trump said it.
    I dont trust the mainstream media

    The peace deal Trump has proposed (which was leaked in Dutch media) entails setting up a security zone thats similar to the demilitarized zone in NKorea. It would be manned by NATO troops. There's no way Putin would be dumb enough to invade Ukraine again.

    Zelensky has said he's okay with Russia keeping the conquered land if it means Ukraine can join NATO. This is the only way I can see a peace deal. Both sides will have to give up something.

    Then Vladdie can go home claiming victory, and Zelensky can do the same because Russia never conquered Kiev or rest of Ukraine

    You dont read very well.
    Technically the US and NKorea are still at war
     
  2. celito

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    Seriously ? @1:40s in 2002 way before the invasion



    Then in the beginning of 2003. He is indifferent-ish .. but not against war. Just tired of the indecision.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2003-clip-backs-up-trump-on-iraq-war-opposition

    Is that not his voice ?
     
  3. Sounders78

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    And the Abraham Accords did what exactly to promote peace? Israel and the UAE and Bahrain were not really fighting wars with each other. And, as we can see from the attacks last year and the subsequent war, it did nothing to establish peace in the region.
     
  4. Brilliant Oranje

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    2002?? So this was very shortly after 9/11.

    He says "I guess so". Thats kinda understandable since his home city was just attacked.
    Again, there's nothing in Trump's past to suggest he's a war hawk.
    And certainly nothing to suggest so during his 4-year term either.

    BTW I noticed you have conveniently not answered my questions.
    What has Biden done to make peace with NKorea??
    And what has Biden done to make a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine??
     
  5. celito

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    You said he was against Iraq invasion. What time frame do you want ? I gave you 2003 as well. 2003 was when the invasion happened. With regards to first Iraq War he didn't say it was a mistake to go to war. He said they didn't get the job done. In what world is this "anti war".

    "Technically at war" isn't at war. We don't have relations. Plus, your claim was Trump has been anti-war for a long time. I said 2015 ? No, you mentioned Iraq war. I am providing receipts.

    I didn't claim Biden was anti war, so how is that any relevant to this conversation ??? Why do I have to defend a position I didn't take ?
     
  6. Brilliant Oranje

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    UAE and Bahrain wouldnt even acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
    After the Abraham Accords these countries now have diplomatic relations, and non-stop airline flights between all 3 countries.

    https://www.emirates.com/bh/english/destinations/flights-from-bahrain-to-israel/

    https://www.expedia.ca/lp/flights/dxb/tlv/dubai-to-tel-aviv


    This would have been unheard of before the Accords deal was struck.

    But I get it @Sounders78, you hate the Trump. And you hate his supporters as well.
    So you dont want to give Trump any credit for this.

    Whats ironic is you are LGBT. And a such you constantly preach that people should be respectful and tolerant of your lifestyle.
    And yet here you are being intolerant and disrespectful yourself.
    Your BS posting history clearly proves that.

    So perhaps you should start practicing what you preach if you want to be respected yourself.
    Just a suggestion though, I doubt you'll take my advice
     
  7. Brilliant Oranje

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    Trump said "I guess so". Not exactly a strong endorsement

    Uhm, yes it is

    Right, and thats what Trump tried to improve

    Because you keep bitching about Trump, but you have nothing to say about Biden.
    And you still havent answered my 2 questions. You keep dodging :D
     
  8. celito

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    You said he has clearly been anti-war. Nowhere in those two clips he is clearly anti-war. He clearly has no problem with it and actually had a strong opinion about the first Iraq War. He also praises administrations of the past who actually didn't dwell on going to war ... they just did it.

    But, I am not saying he was gung-ho War Hawk. You said he was clearly anti-War. That is the argument. You doubted the MSM, I gave you audio proof. Seriously .. what more do you want ?

    I thought this was the Trump thread where the subject matter is Trump. Bringing up Biden is a clear deflection. You don't know if I am anti or for American intervention abroad. I haven't stated my opinion so this whataboutism is completely irrelevant.

    You need to defend your position and you aren't doing so because you know you're wrong. Can't hide behind "Oh the MSM lies".

    It's OK to just say you were wrong and stop claiming the sky is green.
     
  9. Quakes05

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    Are you a PVV party member in your country or mostly just preoccupied with US politics?
     
  10. Brilliant Oranje

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    Do you think when Trump said "I guess so" that was a ringing endorsement of the war??

    Cause I dont. Sounds like someone who was reluctant
     
  11. Quakes05

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    Dude, this is a weird obsession for you, you might want to get that checked out. Let’s try to keep this about Trump supporters. :thumbsup:
     
  12. celito

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    Again, you said he has been ANTI-WAR for a long time. Being ANTI-WAR would mean that the answer to that question (and the other one in 2003) should have been "No, I don't support the Iraq invasion". Specially when in 2016 he claimed he was clearly against it, which was a lie. You could have 3 positions, for, against, indifferent. "I guess" is a soft yes.
     
  13. Rossonero23

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    Biden is easily the most corrupt president in modern history.
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

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    Prove it.
     
  15. Rossonero23

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    Why issue sweeping pardon from 2014-2024?? Funny trump was impeached for looking into the Biden crime families Ukraine activity.

    Biden will definitely pardon his brother next. Also lower level captains and soldiers.

    Piece of sh1t.
     
  16. Brilliant Oranje

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    I think its more of a reluctant yes

    Now, are you gonna answer my 2 questions or are you gonna keep dodging??

    What has Biden done to make peace with NKorea??
    And what has Biden done to make a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine??
     
  17. Quakes05

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    C’mon BO, tell us how a Dutchman becomes such a massive Trump fanboy, I’m genuinely curious. Have you ever visited the USA?
     
  18. Sounders78

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    The UAE and Bahrain weren't actually at war with Israel and, off the top of my head, never have been. As such, while it is good to establish diplomatic relations, it didn't really establish peace in the region.

    Yes, I hate Trump. He is an absolutely abhorrent human being. He is a narcissistic sociopath, convicted felon and sexual abuser. He has been impeached more times than any other president in US history. He aligns himself with dictators and autocrats. He quotes Hitler, dines with white supremacists, admitted he owned a copy of Mein Kampf, took out a full page ad advocating for the murder of five innocent people, skirted the emoluments clause right from the start, and the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ...

    You confuse being intolerant and disrespectful with calling out bullshit and providing evidence to back myself up.

    I don't ask people to be tolerant of my "lifestyle", I expect people to be respectful of my humanity. Unfortunately, Trump supporters usually are not, and they certainly advocate that my equal rights be denied because of their religious beliefs. I do not ask their rights be denied because of my religious beliefs. I cannot help it if you do not understand the difference and support a sociopathic narcissist who admires Hitler.
     
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  19. Rossonero23

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    Do the needles on the city streets disturb you?
     
  20. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

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    No. What city do you live in?
     
  21. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

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    So this guy Geert...

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    ...is he kind of like your Trump in the Netherlands?
     
  22. Brilliant Oranje

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    #1148 Brilliant Oranje, Dec 3, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2024
    And talk like this is what lost you the election.

    Most Trump supporters just want a secure border, a good economy, low inflation and be able to buy food and gasoline at a reasonable price. They dont care about taking away your gay rights, and nobody gives a rats ass who you sleep with
     
  23. Brilliant Oranje

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    I never said they were at war. But they were bitter enemies for a long time, and that now seems to have improved a lot due to Trump's policies
     
  24. Brilliant Oranje

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    My parents own a home in Siesta Key (Casey Key to be exact).
    My mom is part American.
    I've been to the US at least a half dozen times
     
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