The Trump Presidency Nein: Leistung, Korruption und Lugen

Overstaying his term is simply not possible.

I would start there and work backward.

 

Trump wins in 2020. The Senate remains GOP through 2024. Trump says he wants to run again for a third term. Who is putting the brakes on that? The GOP that refuses to do anything about his blatant corruption now and refuses to put a leash on him is suddenly going to follow process and tell him he can't run again? People need to stop thinking we live in normal times with normal mores and processes. We don't. You need to prepare for every inevitability and stop saying "Oh, that'll never happen in America."

 

Hypotheticals.

Keep talking yourself into furthering your fear.

There is no chance Trump will overstay his term. You can go back to raging on his latest inconsequential twitter rant.

 

They like to pretend Obama never happened. Obama is Jordan and Trump is Paxson hitting the game-winning shot. We don't celebrate Person, we celebrate Jordan dropping a 30-7-5.

 

So much this but no one calls them out on their racism.

 

There are two different things here:
1. Him attempting to overstay
2. Him succeeding at overstaying


He is essentially threatening to do the first. That should be taken seriously, given he and others have been floating that trial balloon already. Therefore, it is not a 0% possibility of happening, given he and McConnell have not been respectful of the rules.

Whether he would succeed or not is another matter.

 

Trump could very well win in 2020 but if he does or doesn't the GOP have 43 seats to defend in 2020 and 2022, while the Dems have 24. In 2020, Colorado, Maine, Arizona, and North Carolina are the easiest pickups. In 2022, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Arizona (if not won in 2020) are the easiest pickups.

Ten seats in the next two cycles, the GOP defending a three seat majority, a deeply unpopular President, and a looming recession?

Maybe take some of this gloom and go knock on some doors in Virginia.

 

I’m currently in a Glasgow cafe listening to a Scotsman who lives in America argue that’s Trump is a great president. He says the problem is the American media is all leftist and relentlessly attacks Trump, who has done so many good things.

 

I’m not at all concerned by Ivanka or Jared seizing the “throne”. I’m also not concerned by a Trump third term, primarily because I expect him to die before then.

 

This is silly. The states that would have to put him on the ballot would refuse. Even those that did would be sued. There is no mechanism, no matter how ********ed up SCOTUS is....to declare the constitution unconstitutional.

 

There is a sitting SCOTUS Justice who doesn't believe the separation of church and state and been enumerated to the many states, and it is ok if say, Alabama to pick a name at random, wants to become the Evangelical Theocratic State of Alabama, so long as they follow federal law.

Step 1: have a private religious police force

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734591147/new-alabama-law-permits-church-to-hire-its-own-police-force

I dont trust this SCOTUS to not do what their Federalist Society handlers tell them to. Four of them are nuts and three others are half nuts. I wouldn't trust the judicial branch to protect anyone who isnt exactly of the demographic type deemed worthy by FS. If that means throwing out whole parts of law, from wherever, why not?

 

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Stanger - It is clear that before abandoning their basic economic policies of shareholder value and executive compensation the GOP will abandon Democracy itself. They show contempt for Democracy every day.

 

Good things ... like tweet attacks on English politicians? I suppose if you're a twat Scot, that would count. It doesn't yield much for us, though.

 

Yeah, I'm having trouble with that math, too.

 

Wallace/Trump 2021. Make Scotland Great Again!!!






I assume that since his mom was a Scott, Trump can claim citizenship there, no?

 

If you asked anybody in Chile in 1972, they would have said there was no way whatsoever that a country with such strong democratic traditions could ever become an authoritarian right wing terror regime. By 1973, they were chopping the fingers off of guitarists' hands and murdering opponents by the thousands.

 

By the way, this came out last week but I neglected to mention it. The WH is considering executive action to cut the capital-gains tax rate, which you think couldn't be done by executive action, but this Presidency seems to believe that pretty much everything can be done.

Such an action would increase national debt and benefit only the wealthy. Big surprise that.

 

They had O'Higgins run as dictator for the first decade or so, then democratic elections, then a military coup in 1924 that had a former general run the country until 1932 (still democratic elections).

In 1938 the socialist attempted a coup and were massacred by the government. Then sort of stable democracy for 30-40 years.

So I am sure that if you asked anybody in Chile in 1972, they would not be very secure of their "Democratic traditions"

Maybe a majority of under 40 year olds would think 'no way', but anyone over 40 had lived under a de-facto dictatorship, so they would have that in the back of their minds.

 

It's not fear, at least not for me. It's acknowledgement of the possibility given the rhetoric of the president and his acolytes. And this isn't just about a third term, this is about him even accepting a loss in the next election. He's already convinced his cult that he would have won the popular vote if not for millions of illegal votes cast, they've basically been groomed to not accept anything other than his victory, and if the results show otherwise well then the results must be false. And if there are enough people who believe that in positions of power (whether in congress, in the military, or whatever) then the outcome could be problematic. And even if they fail (which, yes, it's almost certain they would) we'll still have a large chunk of the population believing the president was removed unfairly by the deep state. There are a whole lot of people, many previously sane, who've gone WAY down the rabbit hole over the last couple years.

 

That should scare the crap out of our resident third party voters. I mean, after all I remember them being scandalized by all the executive orders signed by Obama.

Or maybe my memory is faulty in that regards and they were only concerned about free market, states rights, Yemen and unmanned drones. It is clear that we are making progress on those subjects under Cheeto Benito.

 

Again...the third term is silly. The 22nd amendment is unambiguous.

But the main point of my earlier post regarding the process of certifying the electoral college results was to show how, under the right circumstances, the GOP could constitutionally override the state certified electoral college results and hand trump a second term.

 

After the 2000 election, Maxine Waters wanted to object to the Florida Electoral college certified results. She didn’t have a senator to go along with her...so Al Gore denied her motion.

Replace Maxine with a republican house member...note the makeup of the GOP senate, with Mitch McConnell as majority leader...and tell me the same thing would happen 20 years later.