The Transgender Discussion [Strictly Moderated]

I apologize.

 

Connecticut loses case regarding allowing transgender to compete vs biological women.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-transgender-sports-inclusion-violates-others-rights/ar-BB14IjZG



Lawsuits going the other way are in the pipe, this one in Idaho.

https://apnews.com/e5855af91d22f292c707920108672330

 

I hate bringing this thread back up, because I know it is just going to attract the crazies.

 

Again, why there is any polarizing opinion against transgender people blows my mind. I like to think that scientists will "discover" everything one day and solve this "problem," but until then...

who cares? Let people live their ********ing lives.

 

What did I miss?

 

Yes, but do we let them compete in high school sports?

 

Why not? Name one high school sport that is so important that this is worth denying someone the chance to compete.

 

The entire 1780s.

 

I was just giving everyone a reminder of the subtopic that drove much of the discussion. For a red herring, people on both sides sure got fired up about it.

 

There's also the issue -- thankfully rare -- of male prisoners identifying as trans, getting transferred to women's prisons and committing sex crimes there.

And while Joe Rogan is truly Bro-magnon man, I have a hard time disagreeing with him on the cases of some trans MMA fighters. It may very well be a complex awakening of identity playing itself out in a person, or it might be some sick ******** guy figuring out a way to beat up women legally.

And I have a friend whose son transitioned at around the age of 15, after years of counseling, including with their priests. He's been fully accepted at school and (surprisingly) in their parish.

So, generally, yes, full support: but their are psychopaths in the world, and its best not to let them sneak by under the radar.

 

@crazypete13 If you are sincere in your apology YOU WILL SHUT THIS ********ING THREAD DOWN IMMEDIATELY. IT IS INCREDIBLY OFFENSIVE.

It is INHERENTLY offensive.

Every time someone resurrects it, the bigoty begins immediately. Like moths to a flame, they cannot resist coming in and denigrating trans people.

Already we have @superdave , like a good "Christian", coming in and advocating discrimination.

Already we have @Dr. Wankler coming in and advocating an entire group of people be discriminated against because of the potential of a very small number of people taking advantage of them. This argument was the source of the bathroom laws - because heterosexuals might rape children or women in bathrooms, Trans people should be discriminated against.

I'm not Trans and I find this thread incredibly offensive. How do you think a trans person would feel? We won't know because they wisely don't participate because they are talked about, not to, and they are talked about it in denigrating terms.

I propose started "The Jewish Discussion" thread for non-Jews to come in and talk about their issues with Jewish people. How do you think that would go? Do you think the very nature of the thread would invite white supremacists and Neo-Nazis in to civilly discuss why they think Jewish people should be discriminated against? Do you think Jewish people would feel like it's a great platform for them to advocate for their group? Maybe I should start it to see how quickly it gets shut down for its offensive nature?

THE EXISTENCE OF THIS ********ING THREAD IS OFFENSIVE. THIS THREAD IS DISGUSTING. THIS THREAD IS VILE.

This thread should ONLY be moderated by a Trans person. If you cannot find a Trans person to moderate it, SHUT THIS ********ING THREAD DOWN NOW.