The TIVO Challenge: reassessing Marvelle Wynne's game

I told you it's hard to overcome mental limitations, My "Cobes" just prove that.

 

Its cool. Like I said, you've made some really good posts in this thread, so I respect that completely. It just drives me a little crazy to see players names spelled wrong. Nothing on you personally.

 

Hear, here. We should all know who to spell.

Sorry GVPATS, but that was just too easy.

 

heheh..

 

Funny thing is, I actually caught the who, how dyslexic slip immediately after posting it. I was just too damn lazy to change it.

 

Following last evening's display at central defender, perhaps more than one thread should be reopened . . . .

Posts 44 and 98 seem to address the old issues appropriately.

 

So basically what you're saying is you bumped a year old thread to pimp two of your own comments?

 

Ahhhh, funny stuff.

 

I think it's a bit unfair to expect a defender to play a perfect game with zero mistakes

I think the real issue is this: are the mistakes part of a pattern? And are the mistake patterns evidence of brain farts, or examples of simply not doing basic technical things, or evidence of being horribly outclassed athletically?

For example, I think missed tackles in the final third are OK as long as you have cover and attacker has a very acute angle to the goalmouth. Remember the guy in the other kit has talent too

But if the guy is at top of the 18 and you have no cover, and you dive in...well, that's inexcusable.

It all depends.

 

In the rush to define Wynne's weaknesses his strength is too quickly discounted.

The goal on Saturday was text book on his problem. He's not great inside the box. He needs good communication and support to be okay. With the Rapids, Moor provides that. On Saturday a couple of minutes into the half nobody did.

There's another discussion on this forum about the doube-6, that mentions the incredibly high line the US played against the quick Chileans. Wynne enables that. He can keep the line, but he can recover when it gets beat.

Both things were evident with the Rapids all last season. The team kept a high line and was good at killing attacks well outside their box. They were weak on set plays, not necessarily because of Wynne, but there's a bit of subtraction occurring when he's in rather than someone who's stronger inside the box.

As always the question is, can he learn? Honest answer is I don't know. I do think that the situation on Saturday was tailored to his weaknesses - no communication, a cross into the box, and the stronger box defender stepping outside. That can be managed, but is it worth managing it? Hard to say, our center backs aren't fast and that hurts us at times as well - slower in players in the back are common, but that doesn't make it a virtue.

 

Thought Wynne showed tremendous improvement in his play at fullback. The positioning especially was much improved resulting in many fewer goals coming from his side.

Then he got moved to centerback. I have no doubt he can improve in his play there, but it's disappointing he re-signed with MLS. I was hoping he'd look to accelerate his career and game with a move to Europe.

 

This is quite true and he adds a dimension defensively which we need.

Yep, I am surprised about this too. It had been mentioned that he was headed to Europe for a while now. (There was even a bit of a humorous moment when people had heard rumors and he was quoted as saying he had not heard them).

Does anyone know the source of the rumors and the situation around what had been considered a potential move?

 

Marvell Wynne lacks technical skills has to be one of screwier memes on BS this side of 'michael bradley is a card machine', 'EJ is lazy', and 'Dempsey has an attitude problem'.

What's real is that none of Chad Marshall, Geoff Cameron, Franklin, or Wynne chose to go overseas. MLS hasn't placed a defender in a top 5 league since Boca and Nelsen.