The thread for Ruud Gullit

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  1. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
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    Feb 3, 2024


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  2. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    yes ..


    in Brazil ... are consider :


    Top 4 brazilian all time :


    1# Pelé
    2# Garrincha
    3# Ronaldo Nazario
    4# Romário ...




    Romário and Ronaldo Nazario

    has so many many debates always about them in general here :


    Who was the best between them ..etc..





    well...

    of brazilians .. living in Brazil ...
     
  3. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

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  4. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


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  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  7. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  8. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    PuckVanHeel ...my spiritual brother from Holland ....


    I don't think so ..." The idea he "didn't score a lot" is a bit weird. " I don't think so ..




    As a CounterPoint ...




    Dennis Bergkamp


    Matches ....
    815
    Goals
    301

    0, 36, 93 % ...... average Of Goals ...


    ( 0, 30 % average Of Assists )


    Ronaldinho Gaucho

    816 matches
    301 Goals

    0, 36, 88 %...average Of Goals ..



    ( 0, 28 % average Of Assists )



    Ruud Gullit


    641 matches ... counting ( matches as Manager HeadCoach and Player at the same time for Chelsea 1996/97 of course in few minutes on the field .. per Match or per Game )


    236 goals

    0, 36, 81 % ... average Of Goals...

    ( 0, 33 % ....average Of Assists )






    ......


    I know Ruud Gullit started his career

    as a defender ;;
    central defender
    and
    I realize
    how he spoke to Rio Ferdinand
    in the special UEFA program..

    For Euro-Cup 2024




    in 1979-80 ....



    later at Feyenoord ...




    he played

    Right Wing-back
    Right Full-back
    central defender ( libero )
    central midfielder
    right winger Playmaker




    later at PSV ...Ac Milan ... Sampdoria ...chelsea ....Holland National team side

    ..
    practically all possible positions on the right side of the Lineup



    Right Wing-back
    Right Full-back
    central defender ( libero )
    central midfielder
    right winger Playmaker
    Quarter-Back by left ( libero )
    Second Striker Supporting the Center-Forward.. ( drop deeper )
    Deep Lying Forward (drop deeper )
    Second Shadow Striker (drop deeper )
    Tre-Quartista ( Sampdoria times )
    Center Forward a very very few times ... (false Nine ) against Spain 1987 ..
    Attacking Midfielder Mezzala ....


    I Know that ..PuckVanHeel ....





    But Dennis Bergkamp's goal averages...Ronaldinho
    and Ruud Gullit
    also

    continues
    medium to Low or lower in % ...
    in percentage


    0, 36 % goals per Matches disputed ..is Low ...for sure ...






    .....

    Gullit Shots on Target ratio %

    in the general average
    it's not very good



    Examples of this

    1990 World Cup

    he gave several Shoots with Power

    But without any precision

    surgical precision or accuracy %


    when Gullit was in this moment of many ups and downs..

    due to injuries to his right knee...

    it took a little longer...

    to stay
    very very fit...

    Again and Again ...


    in these moments.. without very higher confidence.. and out of shape ( Bad shape )

    he didn't take any more risks

    Place Shots
    Shots Technique
    Lobs
    First Shots with accuracy
    soft kicks
    Volleys
    OverHeadKicks ...


    he was..always kicking..extremely

    with dry and powerful kicks..

    without varying enough the Cartola Kicks Repertory

    as
    for example ..


    Place Shots
    Shots Technique
    Lobs
    First Shots with accuracy
    soft kicks
    Volleys
    OverHeadKicks


    Bigger Examples from this :
    in World Cup 1990 ..
    in European Champions Cup Final .. 1990
    season ...1990-91 for Ac Milan ....89-90 ...
    Real Madrid 1 x 3 Ac Milan ...in 1990 .... Gullit mistakes ...one shot with left foot ..
    several extremely powerful kicks attempts but without any precision;; or accuracy %

    subtlety

    But a lot for the injuries

    and lack of game rhythm

    lack of confidence.

    lack of high esteem







    Shots on Target Ratio % of Ruud Gullit ...


    is a little better than Ronaldinho...
    and Dennis Bergkamp
    But not that ... much for Example..

    by All positions that he played in career ....







    Football Manager ..concepts ..Of types Shots or Shoots ..!




    [​IMG]



    If their technique is low then there is no point in teaching them to place shots. If strength is low then power shots are not going to be teachable.

    There is also composure to take into account. A low rating in that can mean that they buckle under mental pressure and miss shots not due to skill but due to mental focus.

    I use these PPMs for select players. I usually teach place shots to smaller, weaker finesse players and power shots to larger, stronger target men.

    Also note that a combination of attributes and tactics can determine a players 'shot IQ'

    i.e. from where he chooses to shoot from. Some skilled players are frustrating because they choose to shoot from poor angles or from far away. PPMs and tactics can help a bit with these players but ultimately you have to decide if they are worth keeping since they can waste your teams chances by shooting low % opportunities.



    The important thing is to have a lot of variation in types of shots


    Place Shots
    Shoots with Power
    Lob Kick
    OveHeadKicks
    Volleys
    First Shots
    Around the Keeper
    Positioning
    Anticipating pretty well
    Shoots from Distance
    Curly Shots
    Accuracy %
    Flair Of Goal ...
    etc ....

    Miravlix[/paste:font]
    Posted December 22, 2015


    Shoots with Power has a hidden benefit, it seems to result in the keeper not holding a shot, creating an extra chance of someone scoring.

    a finisher that get close to goal is prolly better with places shots, shoots with power seems quite helpful on players who shoots from future out.



    https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/364156-place-shots-or-shoot-with-power/
     
  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



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    AVERAGE OF GOALS IN GENERAL ;;


    BETWEEN 0, 0 % TIL 0, 25 % AVERAGE OF GOALS .. -==== LOWER




    BETWEEN 0, 26 % TIL 0, 49 % AVERAGE OF GOALS .. -==== LOW



    0, 50 % ============== AVERAGE =========== MEDIUM AVERAGE ...

    0, 60 % ================ MEDIUM HIGH ..

    0, 65 %
    TIL
    0,75 % ============================== HIGH




    BETWEEN 0, 76 % TIL 1, 00 % AVERAGE OF GOALS .. -==== HIGHER
     
  10. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    MORE THAN 1, 00 % AVERAGE OF GOALS ..========= ...... EXTRAORDINARY ...EXCELLENT ... OUT OF THIS wORLD ....
     
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  13. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    @Trachta10 - the first 4 and a half minutes is full of Bergkamp Ajax assists (apart from the ones in the orange shirt of the Netherlands NT) so I thought I'd alert you as IIRC you didn't have him down for a lot of assists with Ajax on the goal contributions thread did you? This video probably can't help with an exact number but it could indicate an under-counting potentially I guess.

    I see there are a few 'key passes' (that didn't result in assists) from World Cup 1994 as well on the video. It seems like it will be in chronological order, roughly at least. I know most/all of the Arsenal assists so will maybe skip through that section, but it's a great effort to make that video I think (the only video on the channel so far I see actually, but a really good one!).
     
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  14. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I can see that it looks like there are a good amount of key passes included in that section of the video too though (some of them I possibly saw but forgot by now I guess!). Souster's footage is being used, but I guess he would agree it's fair enough, and makes for a good combination with the earlier Ajax/Inter period assists and passes, all on the one video.
     
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  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    yes ... Great Video ... from this guy called 10 nd 10 .... !
     
  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    .....


    for you PuckVanHeel .............


    What are the Top 5 Dutch players of all time for you?????


    Top 1 ...
    Top 2 ....
    Top 3 ....
    Top 4 ...
    Top 5 ............ ????
     
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    for you Carlito 86 .............


    What are the Top 5 Dutch players of all time for you?????


    Top 1 ...
    Top 2 ....
    Top 3 ....
    Top 4 ...
    Top 5 ............ ????
     
  18. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    .....

    ...
    for you Peter Gabriel 1978 Forest .............


    What are the Top 5 Dutch players of all time for you?????


    Top 1 ...
    Top 2 ....
    Top 3 ....
    Top 4 ...
    Top 5 ............ ????



    Just curious at all !!!
     
  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  20. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Johan Cruyff
    Marco van Basten
    Ruud Gullit
    Dennis Bergkamp
    Johan Neeskens
     
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  21. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    For me ...


    1# johan Cruyff

    .....
    abyss
    gulf
    chasm
    .....

    2# Ruud Gullit ( ....anti-Maradona in the sense of being an antidote against Maradona on the field .......
    to not let him win every possible and imaginable title on career
    )



    3 # Marco van Basten



    4# Van Hanegem ..... (.....anti-Cruyff in the sense of being an antidote against Cruyff on the field............... to not let him win every possible and imaginable title on career )


    as Roberto Dinamite against Zico ... Regional Carioca Championship ....





    5 # is harder to choose someone ...

    drawned

    Ruud Krol
    Arie Haan
    Johan Neeskens
    Ronald Koeman ... not as a defender to do def covers so bad ,,,,, But I like him as a central midfielder midfielder

    World Class Level for sure .. !
     
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  22. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    Great Names !
     
  23. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Interesting to see - I think if not Neeskens, the other option for 5th for me might have been Rijkaard, ahead of Krol and Rob Rensenbrink, and with Faas Wilkes being an uncertainty for me to place and so in theory being a possible candidate too (for best level and/or career).

    The top 4, including Bergkamp, would be kind of set in stone as definite choices for me I think. IIRC Puck will be inclined that way too, and I might expect he will be considering Van Hanegem indeed and perhaps Faas Wilkes indeed (and Rijkaard) as the 5th option (but he will probably answer himself). Carlito's answer will be interesting also and I wouldn't be shocked to see Robben in his list I think (maybe he's another one in the mix for Puck too actually IIRC).
     
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  24. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    ......

    ..
    Yes

    I am a male fox......

    but an older fox hahahahaha already ..


    Of course, among all of you guys , I watched a lot more +++ their entire games

    The Oldest Players..


    Faas Wilkes..

    I saw him playing against Spain. from Di Stefano and Germany...Helmut Rahn..and other Matches ...too ..

    I found a player... he was just a good player...

    Yes

    He had skill despite being very taller and a bigger boy,..

    But... limited a bit technically..
    and in total footballer concepts..

    he reminded me of three big guys from Feyenoord against Benfica

    1962/63

    for the Old European Cup !


    Faas Wilkes was skillful abit yes ..!
     

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