The thread for Ruud Gullit

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  1. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

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    1 Pre_assist there !
     
  2. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

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  3. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

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    1 Pre-Assist there !
     
  4. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Transfermarkt does not show an assist for the Lazio game either (they count penalties won as an assist).

    Next Sampdoria match:




    King Rabbit's comeback inspires Inter Milan at home against Sampdoria

    MILAN, JAN 16. The return of Dennis Bergkamp and the outstanding Wim Jonk inspired Inter Milan to their first success of 1995. Bergkamp celebrated his comeback after three months of injury with a 2-0 victory over Sampdoria. 'King Rabbit', as an Italian newspaper called the striker, was at the basis of both goals. However, Juventus made the biggest impression yesterday. The league leaders defeated number four in the rankings AS Roma: 3-0.

    Inter booked their fifth victory of the season. The last victory was on 4 December, when the team defeated Cremonese 1-0. The last home victory for the Milanese was on 30 October, against Reggiana with Bergkamp and without Jonk. Yesterday, the Uruguayan Sosa and the Italians Bia and Bergomi were absent. Jonk played as last man and became the best player on the field.
    Most attention, however, went to Dennis Bergkamp. The 50,000 fans in the San Siro stadium in Milan were eagerly awaiting his return. In recent weeks, criticism of the Dutchman had become increasingly fierce. Some players accused the attacker of faking an injury. He was also said to want to secure a transfer to Barcelona. In the match against Sampdoria, Bergkamp built up some credit again by preparing the goals of Festa (57th minute) and Fontolan (68th minute) respectively. Fifteen minutes before the end, he missed the chance to make it 3-0.
    Apart from Bergkamp, most other Dutchmen in Italian service also had a pleasant afternoon. The exception was the disappointing Ruud Gullit, who watched with dismay how his compatriots Jonk and Bergkamp excelled at the opponent. John van 't Schip of Genoa and Michel Kreek of Padova scored once in their mutual duel. Both relegation candidates seemed to be content with a draw, until Manicone gave Genoa the victory a minute before the end.


    (16/01/1995) Het Parool - Bergkamp receives praise for Inter's return

    From our sports editor in Milan - Dennis Bergkamp has finally received applause from the Inter Milan supporters. The Dutch striker was sidelined for three months with an injury, but on his return he prepared both goals that allowed Inter to win 2-0 against Sampdoria. The return of Bergkamp and the outstanding Wim Jonk inspired Inter Milan to their first success of 1995. Inter booked their fifth victory of the season against Sampdoria, with a disappointing Ruud Gullit. The last victory dated from 4 December when the Milanese team defeated Cremonese 1-0. Inter achieved their last home victory on 30 October against Reggiana, then with Bergkamp and without Jonk. Yesterday, the Uruguayan Sosa and the Italians Bia and Bergomi were absent from Inter. Jonk played the last man, the defensive organizer, and grew to be the best player on the field. However, most attention went to Dennis Bergkamp, recently called 'King Rabbit' by an Italian newspaper. The fifty thousand fans in the San Siro stadium in Milan were eagerly awaiting his return. In recent weeks, criticism of the Dutchman has become increasingly fierce. Some players accused him of faking an injury and he is said to want to arrange a transfer to Barcelona. In the duel with Sampdoria, Bergkamp built up some credit again by preparing the goals of Festa (57th minute) and Fontolan (68th) respectively. A quarter of an hour before the end, he missed a good chance to make it 3-0.

    (16/01/1995) Volkskrant - ‘King Rabbit’ is having fun again at Inter Milan

    Dennis Bergkamp is having fun again in Italian football. Yesterday, after being injured for almost three months, he made his comeback at Inter Milan and with reasonable success. Sampdoria were put aside 2-0. Both goals (by Festa and Fontolan in the second half) were prepared by the Dutchman, who was called ‘King Rabbit’ by a newspaper. He himself missed a chance to make it 3-0.
    Inter were without Sosa and Bergomi. Jonk was given the task of organising the defence and he did his job excellently. Inter’s last home win was on 30 October, against Reggiana. Gullit disappointed at Sampdoria.
    Juventus, still without Roberto Baggio and Kohler, strengthened their leading position. The 3-0 win over AS Roma led to fireworks in the stands, resulting in three police officers being injured. Juventus could not complain about the referee, who approved the first goal - by Ravanelli - even though a strange incident preceded it
    It happened in the 33rd minute that Roma defender Aldair was hindered when throwing the ball in by the linesman who accidentally bumped into him. Aldair wanted to throw the ball back to goalkeeper Cervone, but saw his attempt fail miserably. Ravanelli took advantage of it and passed the goalkeeper with a lob.
    In the 71st minute, Cervone was sent off after a collision with Torricelli who also saw a red card. With ten minutes left to play, Petruzzi, Roma's libero, was sent to the dressing room for a foul on Vialli just outside the penalty area. However, the referee deposited the ball on the spot, which allowed Ravanelli to score his second goal. Vialli added another goal. Lazio Roma ran over Foggia 7-1. The Croatian Boksic scored three times, Signori scored two goals and Casiraghi and Fuser shared in the celebrations. Four of the seven goals came in the last five minutes. Van 't Schip and Kreek brought Genoa and Padova to 1-1, after which Genoa came out on top thanks to Manicone. AC Milan were more productive than ever at Bari. They won 5-3. Savicevic scored four of the five Milanese goals, the fifth was by Massaro. Parma, the pursuer of Juventus, trailed 1-0 at Fiorentina. Batistuta struck for the fifteenth time this season. Pin equalised after half-time. Parma, playing without Asprilla and Crippa, were unlucky when a header from Dino Baggio was cleared just before (or behind?) the line by Di Mauro.


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    (16/01/1995) - Blackburn Rovers out of bounds
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    From our correspondents Milan - After his comeback last Wednesday in a friendly match, he was still pessimistic about a return to Serie A. That would take some time, Dennis Bergkamp suspected. Yesterday afternoon, the international, who had been struggling with a groin injury for three months, nevertheless made his comeback in the starting line-up of Inter Milan.

    The Dutch striker excelled together with Wim Jonk. The duo led Internazionale to a 2-0 victory over Sampdoria (with a mediocre Ruud Gullit). It was the first victory of the second Milanese formation since December 4 when Cremonese was defeated with 1-0. Bergkamp played with a painkiller injection. The club management had urged him to make a comeback because of the many injuries. After consultation with his physiotherapist Ton Willems, the ex-Ajax player decided to comply with the urgent request. "Sosa could not possibly play because of a knee injury and Pancev was also not fit. Last Wednesday the situation still seemed hopeless. Because I noticed some improvement on Thursday and Friday, I decided to participate after consultation," said Bergkamp, who played his last competition match on October 30. "No, I certainly did not cancel my participation for the Dutch national team too early. It is better to train quietly now instead of playing a tough match in the Netherlands." Juventus extended its lead over rival Parma to four points, with a match in hand. The team from Turin easily won against AS Roma (3-0) thanks to goals from Ravanelli (2) and Vialli. Torricelli (Juventus), Cervone and Petruzzi (both Roma) were shown red. Parma did not get further than 1-1 against Fiorentina. Lazio Roma hit out at Foggia: 7-1. Winter did not score, Boksic and Signori did. The Croat no less than three times, the Italian twice. The other goals for Lazio were scored by Casiraghi and Fuser. Most of the Roman goals were scored in the last five minutes: four. John van ’t Schip of Genoa and Michel Kreek of Padova both scored once in their duel. Manicone gave Genoa the victory one minute before the end. Milan beat Bari 5-3. Savicevic scored four goals.

    (18/01/1995) - No farewell to Gullit yet [column Verkamman]
    [...]
    The international match tonight in Nieuw-Galgenwaard [Utrecht - this game] is peculiar. When it became clear that the commercial (television) interest made it necessary to play this match, the KNVB labelled it as a commemoration of the famous Flood match in Paris. That match between the French team and the Dutch Professionals abroad - those boys were still avoided like the plague by the KNVB at the time - was played 42 years ago. So it is not really an anniversary, but with some imagination it can be claimed that the sensational Dutch victory in the Parc des Princes paved the way for the introduction of professional football.
    And the association is currently commemorating that fortieth anniversary of professional sport. The still-living stars who delivered their feat on Thursday 12 March 1953 are the guests of honour of the KNVB in Utrecht tonight. These men from the twenties are joined by a few stars from the (born in) the sixties. Berry van Aerle (35 international matches), Wim Kieft (43), Erwin Koeman (31), Ronald Koeman (78), Frank Rijkaard (73) and Jan Wouters (70) are put in the spotlight, now that their international careers are over. It is striking that Ruud Gullit is not being said goodbye. Considering the constant whistling concert that Gullit received when he came to play for Ajax for the Champions League with AC Milan earlier this season, it is obvious that the former figurehead of Oranje would have turned down an invitation from the KNVB. Guus Hiddink has now nevertheless let slip that as far as he is concerned there is another reason at play. Hiddink, who looks back with great pleasure on the period in which he worked with Gullit at PSV, wants to exchange ideas with him first. Hiddink is starting with a clean slate. Possible aversion to the current internationals in he has no interest in Gullit's direction. If Gullit plays as well at Sampdoria as he did last season, then yes... For the time being, Gullit's umpteenth return seems out of the question, especially since the player himself left the national team with an extremely bad feeling and has also said that as far as he is concerned, it is all over. In the Dutch football world of gossip and backbiting, of jealousy here and there and of (occasional) hateful supporters, it seems at first sight almost impossible to reinstate the former ambassador of Dutch football. There is something pleasant about it that the new national coach apparently does not care about the Dutch 'Kleinstaaterei' pettiness and wants to talk to Gullit first, before he also grants him an official farewell.
     
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  5. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord


    (23/01/1995) - Juventus lose to Cagliari

    In Italy, leaders Juventus suffered another defeat after nine games without a loss. They lost 3-0 to mid-table Cagliari in Sardinia. Parma took advantage of the mistake, won 2-0 against Napoli and are one point behind Juventus. Colombian Faustino Asprilla scored one of the two goals for Parma, but was sent off just before the end. He reacted incorrectly to a tackle.

    AC Milan seems to have put an end to their early season wobbles. The national champions won 5-3 against Bari last week and triumphed again yesterday: 2-0 against strong Fiorentina. Frenchman Desailly and Di Canio scored the goals deep into the second half. Milan climbed to fifth place in the rankings.
    Fellow city club Inter, eleventh, suffered another defeat. Relegation candidate Padova, Michel Kreek's club, won 1-0. Rosa scored the important goal in the duel, in which Inter dominated, four minutes before the end. Dennis Bergkamp and Wim Jonk played poorly. Ruud Gullit also failed to get into his game. His club Sampdoria did not get further than 1-1 on home ground against Bari. David Platt missed a penalty.

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    After nine games without a loss, Juventus has once again suffered a defeat. The leader in the Italian football league lost 3-0 to mid-table Cagliari in Sardinia. Parma took advantage of Juve's mistake by beating Napoli 2-0.
    Internazionale suffered a devastating defeat. Relegation candidate Padova, Michel Kreek's club, won 1-0. Rosa scored four minutes before the end, in a duel dominated by Inter. AC Milan won 2-0 against Fioj'entina. The Frenchman Desailly and Di Canio scored the goals, deep in the second half. AC Milan climbed to fifth place in the rankings, behind AS Roma, which did not get further than 1-1 against Cremonese. Above the two is Lazio Roma, which scored only once after the seven-goal win last Sunday. The Croatian Boksic scored against Brescia after half an hour. It was enough for the victory. Sampdoria is looking for the right form. Ruud Gullit's team is going through a difficult period. After the defeat last week against Inter (0-2), things didn't go much better against Bari. After Tovalieri had put the visitors ahead with his eleventh goal this season, David Platt missed a penalty. Lombardo shot the equalizer in the 79th minute.
    At Cagliari, the standouts, Roberto Muzzi and the Brazilian-Belgian Oliveira, converted a penalty. The Panamanian Valdez scored the third goal against Juventus.
    At Inter, Dennis Bergkamp failed to score, despite numerous chances. The attacker, like midfielder Jonk, played the entire match, while Sosa was absent due to an injury. In the first half, Fontolan missed two clear chances; in the second, Bergkamp in particular failed.
    The last ten minutes, Padova, with a well-playing Kreek, played with ten men. After a foul on Bergkamp, the referee sent Balleri off the field. Nevertheless, Padova scored the winning goal four minutes before the end.
    Parma reduced the deficit on Juventus to one point. However, the league leader still has the match against Torino to play. Asprilla showed Parma the way. The Colombian scored after just four minutes. Zola made the decision five minutes after the break by converting a penalty. (ANP)

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    (30/01/1995 - Parool) - Jonk is at the basis of Inter's victory with a beautiful goal
    [...]
    "And I have no explanation for it," said the former Ajax player. Bergkamp was at the basis of Inter's winning goal. A Torino defender floored him in the penalty area in the last minute. Midfielder Orlandini, who came on for Fontolan, converted the penalty. Lazio Roma was less fortunate. Despite the 2-1 defeat at home against Bari, Aron Winter's club maintained its position in third place. The other Roman club, AS Roma, came level on points. The Argentinian Balbo scored in and against Foggia in the first minute. His tenth league goal was enough for the victory. Sampdoria won 4-1 at Padova, the team of Michel Kreek and the American with the reddish beard, Aléxi Lalas. The victory came just in time, because Gullit and his team had a hard time after the home defeat against Inter. Gullit played brilliantly yesterday, but did not score. Half of Sampdoria's production came from foreigners. Platt and Jugovic scored, as did Maspero and Mancini. (Rtr, ANP)

    (30/01/1995 - Trouw) - Barcelona competing for another league title
    [...]
    Sampdoria won 4-1 at Padova, the team of Michel Kreek. The victory came just in time, because Gullit and his team had a hard time last week. Gullit played brilliantly on Sunday, but did not score. The match Genoa-AC Milan was stopped. A 25-year-old Genoa supporter was killed in fights before the match. The referee stopped the match before the start of the second half because of new riots. The score was still 0-0 at that time. Ruud Gullit said in the evening he feels like it is time for a week without football.

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    "In a poll conducted early in the week, four out of five Italians approved of the stoppage: an astonishing degree of support in a country whose insatiable appetite for sport is fed by three daily papers.

    But not everyone agrees, and some of the dissenting voices were powerful ones. The president of the Italian football federation, Antonio Matarrese, heard about the tragedy when he returned from a Uefa meeting in Switzerland. Invited to make an immediate response, he said he believed that the decision to abandon the Genoa-Milan match had handed a victory to the hooligans, and that further disruption of the sporting calendar would deepen the impression that sport could be controlled by thugs. The following day, after receiving severe criticism in some of the papers, he was talked round by Pescante.

    The dissidents included Gianni Rivera, Milan's former "golden boy", who described it as "a decision taken with the heart rather than the head - it isn't a solution". Oscar Washington Tabarez, the coach of Cagliari, said: "It's not fair to punish everybody." Zdenek Zeman, Lazio's coach, observed: "It won't change anything."

    But David Platt's balanced view seemed to represent the majority of professionals. "I think the cancellation was a foregone conclusion," he said at Sampdoria's training ground on Thursday, a couple of hours after attending the funeral alongside Ruud Gullit, Roberto Mancini, and the rest of his team-mates."
    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-the-day-sport-stood-still-1571570.html

    "Gullit is the first to hug Cosimo Spagnolo, then Skuhravy, Signorini and Miura arrive [...]. When the mass ends, Gullit goes to kiss his parents and Miura follows him."
    https://www.saladellamemoriaheysel.it/PAGINE DELLA MEMORIA/VINCENZO CLAUDIO SPAGNOLO/Vincenzo_Claudio_Spagnolo_LA_TRAGEDIA.html
     
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  6. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    This sentence wasn't translated well by the translator software. It should read as: "He [Hiddink] sees no message in the aversion there might be between Gullit and the current internationals."
     
  7. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  8. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    07/02/1995 - 'Winning the ball is essential in football'
    [...]
    A ruler in midfield, perhaps Milan president Silvio Berlusconi had a vision when he called Desailly ‘the second Frank Rijkaard’ when signing the contract. The player himself prefers not to hear that comparison. “I find it problematic to be confronted with that all the time. I am not a second Frank Rijkaard, but a completely different player. I want to focus on the defensive work in midfield. Goals and assists are not the most important thing for me. Taking the ball from an opponent, that is the essence of the game for me. It is in my blood. For great players like Van Basten, Baggio, Gullit or Bergkamp, scoring the occasional goal is an addiction. I, on the other hand, get a kick out of winning the ball.”
    https://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=KBPERS01:003123006:mpeg21:a00213

    11/02/1995 (Trouw) - Italian players no longer allowed to protest

    ROME (SID, ANP) - Italian footballers are now prohibited from protesting decisions by referees. Disciplinary measures will also be taken from now on against players who make obscene gestures towards spectators. Players who do not adhere to the new guidelines of the Italian Football Association will face a fine or a suspension. The measures were taken to curb violence on and around the pitches. Almost two weeks ago, a supporter was stabbed to death at Genoa - Milan. The clubs are also prohibited from further encouraging fans to attend away matches. Anyone who does not comply with this will receive a fine of up to a tonne. TV images may also now be used in criminal cases. This was not permitted until now. The Ministry of the Interior has released the football stadium in Genoa for matches until the end of the season. The decision means that Sampdoria, Ruud Gullit's club, can play against Reggiana tomorrow. Sampdoria and Genoa play in the same stadium. The permission was given on the condition that some work is carried out as soon as possible. For example, officials do not consider the entrances suitable for adequately checking supporters.



    13/02/1995 (Volkskrant) - Resumed competition in Italy full of reflection - Orange brigade not very successful in Serie A

    ROME — After a football-free Sunday, the Italian league resumed this weekend. Memories of the death of a 24-year-old Genoa fan two weeks ago dominated the sporting thoughts. The players entered the field in the shirts of the opponents, after which the captains of the teams called on the supporters in a special statement to unite against the violence. "Football must unite us, not drive us apart," said Sampdoria captain Roberto Mancini. Ruud Gullit's club played in the Ferraris stadium, where Vincenzo Spagnolo was killed in front of the gates a fortnight ago.
    The fans in the stadiums behaved remarkably calmly. The supporters of Genoa and Michel Kreeks Padova did not even travel with their clubs to Florence and Parma respectively.
    Juventus, still without Roberto Baggio, maintained a three-point lead in the standings. The club from Turin won 2-0 against Bari. Del Piero, the star of the Italian under-21 team, put his club 1-0 ahead with a penalty in the 40th minute. One minute before the end, Ferrara secured the victory for the league leaders. Both teams were already playing with ten men. The referee sent Jarni of Juventus and Mangone of Bari off the field.
    Parma had a difficult afternoon in their own stadium against Padova. Kreek and his teammates were able to parry Parma's attacks for a long time. But in the 71st minute, the number fifteen of the Serie A had to bow after a goal by Zola.
    [...]
    Sampdoria won by a hair's breadth against Reggiana. The relegation candidate surprisingly took the lead in the 31st minute. Padovano converted a penalty. Fifteen minutes later, Sgarbossa his own goal equalized. It was only two minutes later that Lombardo secured the victory for the team from Genoa. With this result, Sampdoria rose to joint fourth place. Before Gullit's arrival the club stood ninth in the table after nine rounds. The 'Black Tulip' showed a visibly dejected and demotivated mood after the game.
     
  9. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Re: that highlights above. Nice and effective flick by him at 1:19!

     
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  10. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord

    (some nice football there! 0:35, 2:48...)

    19/02/1995 (Parool)
    "Ruud Gullit helped his club Sampdoria to the equalizer in the duel at Foggia (1-1). The Dutchman headed in the 64th minute from a cross by Lombardo. Just before half-time Bresciani had given Foggia the lead. Sampdoria fell further behind due to the draw. The team is now fifth [correct], thirteen points behind leader Juventus."



    27/02/1995 (Volkskrant) - Vialli helps Juventus to expensive victory in the final phase

    Juventus took a difficult hurdle on their way to the Italian championship last night. In Genoa, Sampdoria were defeated 1-0. Parma, who trumped Lazio, need not feel hopeless with a six-point deficit to Juventus, but the other teams in Serie A do.
    Sampdoria attacker Lombardo missed three scoring chances after the disappointing first half. Ten minutes before the end, Vialli forced the decision at the other end. He effectively completed a beautiful solo. Gullit, who said he wants to continue his career in France or Monaco, failed to inspire Sampdoria.

    [this is basically the first concrete reference in the newspaper database about Gullit his next destination]

    27/02/1995 (Algemeen Dagblad) - Real Madrid start to sweat again
    [...]
    In Italy, the Old Lady, also known as Juventus, is striving well for its 23rd title. Sometimes it is accompanied by eye-catching performances, but yesterday evening the performance against Sampdoria seemed like nothingness again. The top match in the Serie A turned into a game of scraping, kicking, there was no room for smooth combinations or technical feats. There were enough blunders, especially from Lombardo. Gullit participated and went through the motions and procedures. While Sampdoria deserved the win, it was Juve that came out on top: 1-0, thanks to a very nice goal by Vialli.
    Lazio Roma experienced how decisive the form of the day can be. Last week Aron Winter and his mates Milan played magnificently off the pitch, yesterday afternoon the Romans were just as easily wrapped up by Parma (2-0). Asprilla was responsible for the entire production of Juve's pursuer. Lazio therefore had to cede third place in the ranking to city rivals AS Roma, who rejected relegation candidate Reggiana 2-0. In Fiorentina-Inter (2-2), with eight yellow cards and a red for Inter player Orlandini, Bergkamp and Jonk were present. Bergkamp (also yellow) made a great impression, but did not score himself.
     
  11. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    The idea he "didn't score a lot" [sic] is a bit weird.

    This is how it looked between the opening of the borders and his farewell (1980 - 1995). I have looked up the penalty count as well in Rino Tomassi his book (p. 297 shows Van Basten with the 5th best penalty conversion rate in entire Serie A history, until 2006; he is #1 among players with a minimum of 20 attempts).

    https://www.transfermarkt.com/serie...4/tabellenart/alle/filterPosition/alle/plus/1
    [The minutes per goal number is unreliable!]

    Among foreigners

    Van Basten - 90 goals (24 penalties) in 147 games
    Sosa - 84 goals (18 penalties) in 200 games
    Maradona - 81 goals (30 penalties) in 187 games
    Careca - 73 goals (7 penalties) in 164 games (not 163!)
    Platini - 68 goals (10 penalties) in 147 games
    Balbo - 66 goals (16 penalties) in 123 games
    Gullit - 62 goals (1 penalty) in 178 games

    That he has only one penalty (out of one attempt) is really the deceptive thing here - the ones below him in the last have many more. Take that into account and he has evidently a good rate although of course the role, function, team and position varied a bit from time to time. This is not to say he is the best of the lot, but that he "didn't score a lot" is plain nonsense. He actually did. I wonder how many attempts he needed for this (we know the shot number for Maradona in 1986-87...).
     
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  12. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Another early one, from 06/02/1980 (this season) - there is a reference to the dominance of Ajax youth players in the team.

    Haarlem player Ruud Gullit striking figure in new-style UEFA team

    AMSTERDAM — Considering the solid results that the Netherlands has achieved as a football nation in the past decade, it is remarkable that the successes of future teams such as Jong Oranje, but especially the UEFA youth (16-18 years), were often rather disappointing. At the UEFAs, the Eastern European countries, but also nations such as England and even Belgium usually win the prizes.
    [...]
    It is a fact that the team that will practice against the West Germans in Enschede tonight can boast a certain experience in top football. Danny Blind (Sparta), Tjalling Dilüng (FC Twente), Marco de Vroedt (FC Den Haag), Rene Tol (Volendam), Ruud Gullit (Haarlem), Erwin Koeman (PSV) and to a lesser extent the talented Ajax players John Holshuyzen, Rene Kraay and goalkeeper Sjaak Storm are players who are seriously involved in the various A-selections. Blok: "That is an advantage, because in the past we often came up short at the European Championships against the Eastern European, French and English teams that were largely formed by first team players."
    [...]
    In the Dutch formation, captain Ruud Gullit is one of the most striking figures. This native of Amsterdam exchanged the colours of DWS for those of the Eredivisie club Haarlem in mid-1978. Gullit, a HAVO pupil [2nd highest high school degree - then the top ~15% of the population], already has the build of a mature athlete and that will have played a role in Barry Hughes' decision to give him a place in the A-team from the start of this season. Gullit made his competition debut in August against MVV as a 16-year-old. That happened in the responsible libero position. Looking back, he says: "Hughes gave me all the confidence, but it is not easy to lead as a boy of sixteen. After a while he put me in midfield. There I am now somewhat subordinate to Abe van den Ban and Martin Haar."
    In the UEFA youth team, Gullit played libero against Scotland, but it is possible that he will also move to midfield here, which means that Marco de Vroedt can try as the last man.
    sten (Blok: "I can use him for three seasons [until he is too old]. That only happened to Leen Barth before"), has skipped the team of 16 and 17-year-olds, but is now already captain. Gullit exudes self-confidence and that does not seem to have escaped Anderlecht. The story goes that, Gullit does not know the exact facts, the Brussels club wanted to dig deep into their pockets for him but was shocked when Haarlem mentioned a transfer fee of one million guilders.
    Gullit about his Orange team: 'We have an extensive selection of about twenty men who meet every Wednesday. Everyone is included, including the reserves. I think that is very important. Blok is very open with us, everything is discussed in the group.' Gullit only has words of praise about the current UEFA team. At just seventeen, he is still one of the youngest. 'They also immediately say when you have not played well. I think that is fine, because too many compliments are no use.'

    The large contribution from Amsterdam is striking. With the five Ajax players Sjaak Storm, Ben Haverkort, Rene Kraay, John Holshuyzen and Wim Kieft, it is once again demonstrated that the youth training in De Meer is well taken care of. Another story is that the youth at Ajax do not reach the first team as quickly as, for example, at Feyenoord. Ruud Gullit on the Amsterdam emphasis: "You can see it in the group. They are the guys with the big mouths, you always hear them. But there is an atmosphere where everyone is involved in the events."
    https://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=ABCDDD:010821959:mpeg21:a0319
    (see the photo!)

    The Feyenoord 100 anniversary book mentions he moved to Feyenoord for 831222.90 guilders (p. 342) - summer 1982. This was the result of a sum based on age, old salary, new salary and other things. In case Feyenoord could not pay Haarlem, he would end up at Anderlecht. Gullit had a weakness for Feyenoord (the stadium?) well before that transfer. Van Hanegem had been his mentor since around 1979.
     
  13. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Surprise loss for Sampdoria

    ROTTERDAM, 3 MARCH. Sampdoria surprisingly lost the first match in the quarter-finals of the European Cup Winners' Cup. Ruud Gullit's team suffered a 1-0 defeat against FC Porto in front of their home crowd. Gullit was absent from 'Samp', because he had already played in the Champions League for Milan this season. Porto deservedly won. Yuran scored the only goal.

    FC Porto wrong foots Sampdoria

    (From our sports editor) GENOA - The Italian cup holder Sampdoria suffered a surprising 1-0 defeat against the Portuguese FC Porto last night in Genoa, in the quarter finals of the European Cup tournament for cup winners. The French Auxerre did well in London, where it dragged a draw (1-1) against Arsenal out of the fire.
    Porto's victory was deserved. The Portuguese top team constantly posed great problems to the Italian defense with razor-sharp counters. The only goal was scored after more than an hour by the Russian Sergej Joeran. He was cleverly put in position by playmaker Rui Barros; the Russian scored beautifully with the outside of his foot. Earlier, the Italian defender Vierchowod had managed to prevent FC Porto from taking the lead with an acrobatic move. Ruud Gullit was absent from the Italian cup holder because he was already active in the Champions League this season with his previous employer AC Milan. The Dutch prompter was clearly missed last night. The attacking danger now had to come mainly from Lombardo. The balding attacker came close to scoring once. However, the beautiful header was superbly dealt with by the noteworthy Portuguese goalkeeper Vitor Baia. Fifteen minutes before the end, Rui Barros of FC Porto ran past defender Vierchowod in a lightning-fast move and lobbed the ball just over the goal of the Italian goalkeeper Zenga.

    Cup holder Arsenal were not allowed to play in front of their home crowd in London last night with their new signing Glenn Helder, the left winger recently acquired from Vitesse. According to the guidelines of the European Football Association (Uefa), the transfer was completed too late. The Gunners took the lead after just under an hour. The Nigerian Taribo West of Auxerre brought down the Danish midfielder of Arsenal, John Jensen. The referee put the ball on the penalty spot; international Ian Wright, back after a four-match suspension, converted the penalty. Three minutes later, the defender Frank Verlaat, who had come forward, headed his French team alongside. The result was correct; Both teams created equal chances. Early in the match, however, the effort of Arsenal's Swedish international Stefan Schwartz was stopped by goalkeeper Fabien Cool, Auxerre's third keeper. Arsenal escaped a goal a little later. Vahirua got the ball with some luck from the completely unmarked Laslandes. But he was so shocked by 'the swerve' that he missed from close range. The London club kept pressing, but kept getting stuck in Auxerre's tight defence, with Verlaat as the standout.

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    Sampdoria admits Porto's class

    Sampdoria's chances of winning a European Cup this season have shrunk considerably. In the first match of the quarter-finals of the cup winners' tournament, Ruud Gullit's team lost 0-1 to FC Porto in front of their home crowd. Thanks to Frank Verlaat, Auxerre did gain a chance of a place in the semi-finals. The international equalised with his head in the first match against Arsenal: 1-1.
    Porto deserved the win. The Portuguese top team constantly posed major problems for the Italian defence with razor-sharp counters. The only goal was scored after just over an hour by Russian Sergej Joeran. He was subtly put in position by playmaker Rui Barros and scored beautifully with the outside of his foot.
    Gullit was absent from Sampdoria because he had already played in the Champions League this season with his previous employer AC Milan. He was sorely missed. The attacking threat now had to come from Lombardo. A good header from the balding attacker was superbly dealt with by goalkeeper Vitor Baia. Rui Barros came close to 0-2 fifteen minutes before the end. He outran Vierchowod and lobbed just over Zenga's goal.
    Cup holders Arsenal, without the ineligible former Vitesse player Glenn Helder, had only short-lived pleasure from Ian Wright's accurate penalty. The international, back after a four-match suspension, coolly scored from eleven metres after just under an hour, after Nigerian Taribo West had brought down Arsenal's Danish midfielder John Jensen. Three minutes later, Verlaat headed in the equaliser.
    That was a fair result. The first goal-scoring opportunity was for the London club. However, the effort from Swedish international Stefan Schwartz in the sixth minute was stopped by goalkeeper Fabien Cool, Auxerre's third choice. A little later, there was great danger in front of Arsenal's goal. Vahirua reached the completely unmarked top scorer Laslandes with a deflected shot. He was so shocked that he missed from close range.
    Arsenal did press, but kept getting stuck in the tight defence of Auxerre, with Verlaat as a mainstay. The quick counterattacks of the French cup holder were certainly just as threatening.
    Goalkeeper Lars Hogh of BK Odense kept the damage of his team within limits in the first match for the quarter-finals of the tournament for the UEFA Cup against the by far favourite AC Parma. Thanks to the phenomenal work of the 36-year-old Hogh, the Italians did not get further than 1-0. Four minutes after the break, Hogh had to succumb only to a penalty from Zola, awarded after defender Nedergaard had brought down the Colombian Asprilla.
    Parma unleashed an assault on the Danish goal for almost the entire match. Hogh, however, refused to capitulate. He stopped dangerous efforts from Dino Baggio and Benarrivo. Even after the goal from eleven metres, Hogh's reactions remained brilliant. Odense thus retained their chances of eliminating another famous club after Real Madrid and FC Kaiserslautern. The Norwegian referee Rone Pedersen handed out seven yellow cards. Asprilla was also shown one.

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  14. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord


    06/03/1995 (Algemeen Dagblad) - Shooting gallery at Old Trafford
    [...]
    In Italy, Ruud Gullit once again drew attention to himself. He provided two-thirds of Sampdoria's production against AS Roma: 3-0. Inter (with the inconspicuous Bergkamp and mediocre Jonk) seems to be on the mend, because they did not lose for the third time in a row.
    [...]

    06/03/1995 (Trouw) - Italy

    With two goals against AS Roma, Ruud Gullit helped his club Sampdoria on its way to a 3-0 victory. As a result, the club from Genoa remains in the race for third place, which is occupied by the Roman clubs AS and Lazio Roma.
    Lazio Roma, the club of Aron Winter, is the most productive club in the Italian league. Yesterday, the club from the capital brought its season total in Serie A to 49, after a victory with no less than 8-2 against Fiorentina, who only scored a goal after 5-0. It was striking that top scorer Signori was absent from Lazio due to an injury. Leaders Juventus played 0-0 at Inter, which allowed Parma to reduce the deficit from six to four points. Parma won at Torino with 2-0. At Inter, Jonk and Bergkamp played the entire match. Bergkamp, guarded by the German specialist Kohler, drew no less than four fouls within ten minutes. He offered Delvecchio a good, but unused chance.

    Impressive is the rise of Padova, where Ajax outcast Michel Kreek plays football. The newcomer in the top division seemed to be a direct relegation candidate at the beginning of the season, but has now almost ended up in the middle of the table. Padova won at home with 2-0 against Napoli, through Franceschetti and a penalty kick by Longhi. Last week Padova achieved the first victory outside their own stadium at Bari.

    06/03/1995 (Parool) - Ruud Gullit proves his worth for Sampdoria

    (From our sports editor) With two goals against AS Roma, Ruud Gullit helped his club Sampdoria on its way to a 3-0 victory. As a result, the club from Genoa remains in the battle for third place, which is being contested by the Roman clubs AS and Lazio Roma.
    Lazio Roma, the employer of Aron Winter, is the most productive club in the Italian league. Yesterday, the Romans brought their season total to 49 goals after a whopping 8-2 victory over Fiorentina, who only scored a goal at 5-0. It was striking that top scorer Signori was absent from Lazio due to an injury.
    Leader Juventus played 0-0 at Inter, which allowed Parma to reduce the deficit from six to four points. Parma won at Torino 2-0. At lnter, Jonk and Bergkamp played the entire match. Bergkamp was guarded by the German Kohler. He gave Delvecchio a good but wasted chance. The match, in front of 75,000 spectators, was disappointing as a spectacle. Juventus coach Lippi kept Roberto Baggio, who had recovered from an injury, on the bench, afraid that he would get injured again in the hard clash. Juventus' Marocchi was sent off twenty minutes before the end. Parma took advantage by winning 2-0 at Torino. Internationals Zola - after excellent preparatory work by Asprilla and Pin - and Dino Baggio scored. Gullit, who was not allowed to play in the European Cup match against FC Porto last Thursday, brought his total in the competition to nine. He scored the first three while still in the service of AC Milan. He was far from being the top scorer of this weekend. Those were Casiraghi of Lazio and Simone of AC Milan, both with four goals. Champion AC Milan won 5-0 at number last Brescia. Simone was already the star of AC Milan last Wednesday by scoring twice against Benfica in the quarter finals of the Champions League. The rise of Padova, where Michel Kreek plays football, is impressive. The newcomer in the top division seemed to be a direct relegation candidate at the beginning of the season, but has now almost ended up in the middle of the table. Padova won 2-0 at home against Napoli, through Franceschetti and a penalty from Longhi. Last week Padova achieved their first away victory at Bari.

    06/03/1995 (Volkskrant) - Simone also pushes Brescia aside after Benfica

    The Portuguese top match between Porto and Benfica ended in a 2-1 victory for Porto. Bobby Robson's team took the lead through José Carlos. Joao Pinto equalised, but Drulovic helped the home team to both points. As a result, defending champion Benfica's deficit increased to six points.
    The old record of the Swede Kurt Hamrin was within reach of Lazio player Casiraghi and Simone of AC Milan yesterday. Hamrin scored five times in a match in the Italian league 31 years ago. Casiraghi and Simone came close, just as Van Basten a few years before them. Both scored four goals, against Fiorentina and Brescia respectively.
    Simone is in great shape. Last Wednesday he scored the two goals for AC Milan against Benfica. He did it again against bottom-placed Brescia. His first two goals came after great passes from Savicevic. When Brescia tried to get back, Simone struck twice more after counterattacks.
    Lazio Roma did not miss their injured top scorer Signori. Fiorentina's defence was a Swiss cheese that appealed to Casiraghi in particular. He scored the first and last goals of the eight, with which Lazio underlined its offensive strength. The other goals were scored by Negro, Cravero, Boksic and Di Vaio. Rui Costa and Batistuta scored for Fiorentina, who will have to look for better defenders after the 8-2 defeat.
    Juventus lost two of their six-point lead over Parma by playing 0-0 at Inter. It was the same score as earlier this season in Turin. Juventus are eagerly awaiting the return of Roberto Baggio. Pagliuca, the Inter goalkeeper, distinguished himself several times, especially with a header from Ravanelli. Bergkamp, who himself committed many fouls for his part, had little to say against the German Kohler. Juventus player Marocchi was shown the red card halfway through the second half.
    Parma earned three points from their visit to Torino. The 2-0 win was thanks to goals from Zola and Dino Baggio. Ruud Gullit, who was not eligible to play in the Cup match against Porto last Wednesday, had a pleasant afternoon in the stadium of AS Roma, where Sampdoria won 3-0. The Dutchman found the net twice. Roma were without the injured Fonseca and the suspended captain Giannini. The team played with ten men for a long time because Moriero was sent off.

    PHOTO Associated Press. Dennis Bergkamp is forcefully pulled by the shirt by Juventus player Ciro Ferrara.
     
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  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
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    I know that you don't like Paolo Maldini and Ruud Gullit ...



    But Men at Work



     
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    Santos FC
    France
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  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  18. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    EREDIVISIE 80'S

    1980/81
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 26 POINTS





    1981/82
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 20 POINTS


    1982/83
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 25 POINTS


    1983/84
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 21 POINTS


    1984/85
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 20 POINTS



    1985/86
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 26 POINTS


    1986/87
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 25 POINTS
     
  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    Placar's 100 Craques do Século
    In November 1999, Placar (Brazil) published a list of the best 100 players of all time, ranked from 1 to 100. The list as published follows.

    1.Édson Arantes do Nascimento - PELÉ (Brazil)
    2.Diego Armando MARADONA (Argentina)
    3.Johann CRUYFF (Netherlands)
    4.Manoel Francisco dos Santos - GARRINCHA (Brazil)
    5.Franz BECKENBAUER (Germany)
    6.Alfredo DI STEFANO (Argentina)
    7.Ferenc PUSKAS (Hungary)
    8.Michel PLATINI (France)
    9.EUSÉBIO Ferreira da Silva (Portugal)
    10.ROMÁRIO de Souza Farias (Brazil)
    11.Lev YASHIN (Russia)
    12.Roberto RIVELLINO (Brazil)
    13.Valdir Pereira - DIDI (Brazil)
    14.Just FONTAINE (France)
    15.Daniel Alberto PASSARELLA (Argentina)
    16.Arthur Antunes Coimbra - ZICO (Brazil)
    17.Franchescino BARESI (Italy)
    18.Robert "BOBBY" CHARLTON (England)
    19.Elias Ricardo FIGUEROA Brander (Chile)
    20.Lothar MATTHÄUS (Germany)
    21.Gordon BANKS (England)
    22.NÍLTON SANTOS (Brazil)
    23.Josef Dieter MAIER (Germany)
    24.Sandor KOCSIS (Hungary)
    25.Angel Amadeo LABRUNA (Argentina)
    26.Marco VAN BASTEN (Netherlands)
    27.GEORGE BEST (Northern Ireland)
    28.LEÔNIDAS DA SILVA (Brazil)
    29.Hristo STOICHKOV (Bulgaria)
    30.Francisco GENTO (Spain)
    31.Ruud Dil GULLIT (Netherlands)
    32.FRITZ WALTER (Germany)
    33.Luigi RIVA (Italy)
    34.Gerhardt "GERD" MÜLLER (Germany)
    35.Arthur FRIEDENREICH (Brazil)
    36.Paulo Roberto FALCÃO (Brazil)
    37.Robert "BOBBY" Frederick MOORE (England)
    38.GÉRSON de Oliveira Nunes (Brazil)
    39.Paul BREITNER (Germany)
    40.DOMINGOS Antônio DA GUIA (Brazil)
    41.Dino ZOFF (Italy)
    42.Karl-Heinz RUMMENIGGE (Germany)
    43.Laszlo KUBALA (Hungary)
    44.Uwe SEELER (Germany)
    45.VALENTINO MAZZOLA (Italy)
    46.CARLOS ALBERTO TORRES (Brazil)
    47.OBDULIO Jacinto VARELA (Uruguay)
    48.Eduardo Gonçalves de Andrade - TOSTÃO (Brazil)
    49.STANLEY MATTHEWS (England)
    50.Raymond Kopaszewski "KOPA" (França)
    51.DJALMA SANTOS (Brazil)
    52.George WEAH (Liberia)
    53.Jürgen KLINSMANN (Germany)
    54.PAOLO MALDINI (Italy)
    55.HUGO SÁNCHEZ Márquez (Mexico)
    56.Amadeo Raúl CARRIZO (Argentina)
    57.Albert-Roger MILLA (Cameroun)
    58.Zoltan CZIBOR (Hungary)
    59.Leovegildo Lins Gama JÚNIOR (Brazil)
    60.MICHAEL LAUDRUP (Denmark)
    61.Josef MASOPUST (Czechoslovakia)
    62.Antônio de Oliveira Filho - CARECA (Brazil)
    63.Juan Alberto SCHIAFFINO (Uruguay)
    64.ADEMIR DA GUIA (Brazil)
    65.PAOLO ROSSI (Italy)
    66.Jair "JAIRZINHO" Ventura Filho (Brazil)
    67.Mário Esteves COLUNA (Portugal)
    68.ADEMIR Marques DE MENEZES (Brazil)
    69.Enzo FRANCESCOLI Uriarte (Uruguay)
    70.Teófilo CUBILLAS (Peru)
    71.Gaetano SCIREA (Italy)
    72.Alain GIRESSE (France)
    73.Júlio "JULINHO" BOTELHO (Brazil)
    74.Luis "LUISITO" SUÁREZ Miramontes (Spain)
    75.Giacinto FACCHETTI (Italy)
    76.PEDRO Virgilio ROCHA Franchetti (Uruguay)
    77.SÓCRATES Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira (Brazil)
    78.Guillermo STÁBILE (Argentina)
    79.Thomaz Soares da SIlva - ZIZINHO (Brazil)
    80.Gheorghe HAGI (Romania)
    81.Antônio "TONINHO" Carlos CEREZO (Brazil)
    82.Ricardo ZAMORA Martínez (Spain)
    83.RONALDO Luís Nazário de Lima (Brazil)
    84.Antonio CARBAJAL (Mexico)
    85.Silvio PIOLA (Italy)
    86.Giuseppe MEAZZA (Italy)
    87.Carlos Alberto GAMARRA Pavón (Paraguay)
    88.Gabriel Omar BATISTUTA (Argentina)
    89.Paul John GASCOIGNE (England)
    90.Frantisek PLANICKA (Czechoslovakia)
    91.ROBERTO BAGGIO (Italy)
    92.Zinedine ZIDANE (France)
    93.Johan NEESKENS (Netherlands)
    94.Julio César Romero "ROMERITO" Insfrán (Paraguay)
    95.Davor SUKER (Croatia)
    96.José Luís Félix CHILAVERT (Paraguay)
    97.Jean Amadou TIGANA (France)
    98.Mario Alberto KEMPES (Argentina)
    99.Zbigniew BONIEK (Poland)
    100.Franklin Edmundo RIJKAARD (Netherlands)

    THERE DON'T APPEARS DENNIS BERGKAMP BY THE WAY ....



    IN BRAZIL ...


    PLAYER THAT HASN'T ...

    TITLES FOR NATIONAL TEAM SIDE ...YOURS !

    OR WORLD CUPS ...EURO-CUPS ..


    IS HARDER TO STAY IN THE LIST ..


    I THINK SO ...


    BECAUSE THIS

    DENNIS BERGKAMP ..

    DON'T MENTIONED THERE !
     
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  20. carlito86

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    Real Madrid
    #747 carlito86, Oct 5, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2024
    Roger milla being considered a greater player than Roberto baggio is a beyond bizarre

    Say he is overrated all you want but this is ridiculous

    The World Cup is the most overrated barometer of greatness and even then Roger Milla was absolutely not even a greater WC performer then Roberto baggio


    This list has nothing to do with international trophies anyways

    Zidane was a WC winner before 1999(scored goals in the final,won the ballon dor etc)
    He is 43 places behind Stanley Matthews who never won a single trophy in his entire career

    Did Neekens win a international trophy?
    He is placed by placar ahead of Mario kempes who completely destroyed Neeskens Netherlands in a World Cup final.


    The placement of tigana(ballon dor podium player and Euro 1984 winner) vs Czibor

    Paul Gascoigne(1 FA Cup)vs frank Rijkaard(3x European Cup,Euros and several league titles in Europes top 5 leagues)
    Etc….


    it has nothing to do with international trophies or trophies of any sort

    The only thing interesting I see here is that this Pro Brazilian source has Ronaldo nazario in 83rd place in 1999


    8 goals in 7 World Cup games in 2002 must’ve propelled him up the rankings by 70+ places.

    That is what 7 international games played every 4 years can do for you(in the minds of your own countrymen).
     
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  21. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    The Placar list for the World Cups had him included, funnily. It is a list from a few years later but funny to mention.

    https://www.rsssf.org/miscellaneous/placwc100.html

    https://books.google.com/books?id=H...AgGEAM#v=onepage&q=Bergkamp Batistuta&f=false

    L'Equipe in 1999 had him included in their top 100 list (he was one of the highest placed active footballers):
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/o...-esp-1950s-1970s.2038892/page-5#post-35851594

    The IFFHS vote for best European player had him at 64th, and was one of the highest active players (behind Matthaus, and a fraction behind Hagi, Baggio).
    https://www.rsssf.org/miscellaneous/iffhs-century.html#eupoy

    Take into account here that for example Germany, Italy had many more voters than smaller Netherlands; something like eight times more voters.

    Furthermore, there are already three compatriots of Bergkamp in the top 20. The chance that voters fill their entire list with players from the same country is of course small (and would be absurd).
     
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  22. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    is the list Of Placar Magazine ... ! 1999 ... not mine List ... hahahaha hahaha !
     
  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


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    Game of Women !
     

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