Discussion in 'Referee' started by RefIADad, Jan 17, 2021.
Try orange slices at half time.
My dermatologist is a player in the adult women's league and adult co-ed league. In fact, I specifically chose her because she's a player. I know that she doesn't make a big deal about sun protection herself while she's playing, so she's not going to try to tell me "Now don't ever go out in the sun without wearing a big, floppy hat." It is a little weird though getting naked for my annual exam in front of a player, of the opposite sex, whom I may see out on the field. As long as she and the other women aren't laughing when I walk over to check their roster and player cards.
Could be worse. The player could be your proctologist. Or dentist - want your next root canal without anesthetic?
I was calling contractors to get estimates for a deck replacement this spring, one of the estimators who showed up coaches a local high school. I did some mental math involving my ethical standards and the rising cost of construction.
USL2 center last night, away team's star player picks up a CT in the 48th minute for a petulant kick out at an opponent after getting juked out of his shoes.
4th minute of 5 minutes of second half stoppage time, away team is up 2-1. Ball is cleared out of the away team's defensive penalty area and runs down the wing. Star player chases after the ball, catches up to it two full strides out of bounds, and kicks it about 100 yards away.
Quick whistle, easy 2CT. Player turns and goes "ref, I thought it was in!" as his dad, on the sideline about five yards away from play, says "[Player Name], why the hell would you kick that ball" while literally facepalming.
I then got to listen to the entire team and coaches tell me how unfair it is to give a red card to a player when the season is only 12 games long and now he has to sit out a game, because of course the player couldn't possibly be held accountable for his actions. Must be my fault for being so mean!
I did once have a high school varsity game at a small school, so it was co-ed. I'm R2 on a dual and there's a girl who was the left defender. About the end of the first half, I realized why she was the left defender. She had a glass left eye! There were about three boys on the bench who weren't good enough to beat out a one eyed girl for a starting position.
I've always gotten the impression that players are happy to need to sit a game. They are there the fulfil the requirements of their college coach and if they don't have to give up a weekend night to a game they are actually happier.
Yep it’s always the referee’s fault. Your situation reminds me of mine where a player on a YC decided to be the guy to chase the ball on throw-ins to give to the opponent because they were trailing with no consideration of “hey maybe this will lead to a confrontation, I should have someone not on a YC do it”. Then near the end he runs right into and through a guys back 10 yards off the field to get the ball before he could, then I’m the bad guy for giving him a 2CT.
The next week when the coach apologized for his behavior I more or less told him he should coach better to not let a guy on a YC put the ref in this situation
Wow, I just listened to the most petulant toddler...er...coach I have had all year.
I'm 4O, UPSL game. 1-0 home team at half. 3-0 in the 70th minute. Visiting coach is now complaining about everything. His team scores in the 79th minute. I didn't catch the number of the player that scored. I asked AR1 and he said he didn't know. The center made it a point to tell the ARs "Watch the field after a goal. 4O and I will get the numbers." I looked at the CR but he never looked at me through the time of the ensuing kickoff. I went to the visiting coach and asked him who scored. He said "That's his job" pointing at AR1. I said he didn't get the number. "Doesn't matter. That's his job. I'm not telling you" "No problem coach, if your player getting credit for the goal isn't important to you, it's not important to me, either."
Three subs on the bench said "18!"
80th minute, visiting coach is screaming for a card on a simple foul. No card, so he yells "P*** Madre." I call the CR over and tell him what was said. He gives a yellow for dissent.
No more language from him the rest of the game. After the CR blows full time, visiting coach yells "Arbitro, P*** Madre." CR comes to the ref tent between the benches and asks "What does that mean?" AR1 tells him. CR says "I guess I should have taken that Spanish class after all."
And that’s why you shouldn’t ask the coach. Next time, just ask the players on the bench and you avoid a lot of that trouble.
I took 5 years of Spanish and would’ve never learned this in Spanish class. Lol
I second this, or often times I’ll ask an assistant coaches since they seem to be more of the admin and will know the players kit number better than Head Coach. Ymmv
and you can avoid a prickly Coach interaction. Especially if they’re the kind that don’t want interactions.
You gotta learn all the Spanish derogatory phrases for soccer games. I still remember a Hispanic CR OFFINABUS to a coach who told him “no mames”, I had no idea what it means, he said it basically means “don’t f- me” like you’re cheating them. Then I remembered this to throw out a parent who yelled it at my AR at a U14 game. Then I asked a Hispanic kid in the next game and he said “oh yeah my parents would kick my ass if I said that” so I knew I was right to kick him out
Everyone remember no mames. Straight red every time, and I think it is a pretty frequently used one
I mean I do know quite a bit phrases; No Mames or Vete a la verg*. and all the classics: cabr*n, c*lero, and p*ta. but just like context I think its important to recognize when its used for a player shanking a ball or when a person is directing it to someone.
And for our non-Spanish speakers, that's pronounced mah-mays, not "maims"
He was the only coach on the roster...though there was an injured player on the roster who said he was an "acting assistant coach." No matter how angry the coach gets, I have never had one not want to give his scorer's number. Live and learn.
This same coach would get on the line, obstructing AR1 a few times. I got some cones and made him a technical area. He pointed to the other bench. "Where's their technical area? Where are their cones?" Nobody got within two yards of the touchline on that bench. The head coach barely stood up. But, I marked off a technical area in front of the home bench with cones as well. The home assistant coach laughed out loud at the absurdity, but for sanity sake, it had to be done.
Man I hate those sort of "whatabout" arguments.
"Coach, when the other coach starts obstructing the touchline, I'll go and make him/her a technical area as well. Until then, consider this coned area more helpful to you than a yellow."
thats his way of working you. I would’ve held my ground and said “When he spends 20 mins on top of the line I’m happy to make him a cone technical area. If not we have to book you.” End of discussion.
Then I would still limit my interactions and work with the acting assistant player/coach. And if you can’t get it. Assign it to someone.
Anything that includes 'madre" is not a compliment. And just hope you can get that red card out before someone on the other team takes it personally and decides that they need to take care of this themselves.
You could always just leave it alone, and then when AR1 misses a call because the coach was obstructing the view, tell him he should stay back off the line next time.
This may just be me not doing enough USSF to know the alphabet soup of different leagues, but.... is it his job?
I can't say I've ever really cared WHICH player scored a goal. Was it scored legally? Great, we're moving on.
Some leagues require the goal scorer to be noted in the match report.
I have deliberately done this before. Ask coaches to stay off the line and they keep drifting back. Then if there’s a close ball out of play near them, even if I could tell, they will yell to me, I tell them “you were in the way. I Couldn’t see” and coincidentally they never get close to the line again
I’m considering getting an ikea storage bag to use as my new ref bag since it can be used as a a backpack. It looks pretty big and roomy
Forgive me father for I have sinned. I was AR1 on a UPSL Conference Final last night and they played in a stadium immediately after the MLS Next Pro game. Some guy in the stands was whining and moaning loudly about everything all game long. About 15 minutes into the second half there was a stoppage for an injury. I turned around and grabbed some water and the spectator yelled, "Awww, the referee needs some water." I looked over my shoulder and there was a guy sitting where the voice had come from with a 5 yard empty ring around him. I don't know if it was the heat or I was pissed this guy was treating the game like a pro game, but I looked at him and said, "Some of us aren't sitting down."
Ego te applaudo pro peccatis tuis