The 'Thank You Sven Goran Erikkson" Thread: CONCACAF QUAL. [R]

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by jamison, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    Time to face a bit of a fact, right now Mexico are playing as well- if not better- than anyone in our region. Facing a B team or no, they just won the Gold Cup on the road 5-0, beat the USA at home in a come-from-behind effort, and just took out Costa Rica 3-0 in their house, a loss so ugly people were leaving Saprissa with 20 minutes to go.

    All under Aguirre.

    He has their confedence back, and they no longer look like the shaky uncoordinated bunch of malcontents they were back when they were dropping a 2-0 game to the US or needing a late goal in garbage time to 'only' lose 3-1 in Honduras. Aguirre did drop the El Sal road game 2-1, but only after a late penatly in a game tied 1-1 in the 84th.

    El Tri has totally turned around their fortunes from the group we saw in the early part of the Hex.

    Which gets me around to thanking our numero uno hombre, Sven Goran Erikkson.

    I think our chance to win the Hex basically comes down to two things: key home wins, and Mexico struggling early under Swedish Mr. Burns there (SGE).

    Playing as they are now, you could see them taking a point vs. us in Columbus and at least not losing to El Sal had he more time to turn the ship around. It's woulda-coulda-shoulda time, but if Aguirre is there from x-mas 2008 onwards, Mexico could be leading the Hex right now.

    And, they may yet.

    Looking at our respective schedules, the US has @ T&T, at Hondo, and home to CR, a team that could be fighting to avoid 4th place and a home & home vs. Colombia (or, gasp, Argentina). Mexico on the other hand has home to Hondo, home to El Sal, at T&T. You could see them running the table and winning the group on 21 points, if we can only manage two wins from three and come second on 19.

    Should we pull out a win of this Hex, my first 'attaboy' goes to Bob Bradley, but my first beer goes to Sven. Thanks, you skirt chasing freak, I really enjoyed this summer of thinking that Mexico was in such a bad position that they really could finish 4th.

    Now that it is fall, back to school, back to work, Mexico back to the top end of the table.

    Fun while it lasted.
     
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  2. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

    Feb 5, 2003
    Southern Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good points. I'll add a tip of the hat to Hugo Sanchez, too, who left the team in a considerable amount of turmoil.
     
  3. RevHammerBat

    RevHammerBat Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Charleston
    Cant help but agree...but I dont care who finishes first and wins the hex as long as we have a top 3 spot im good
     
  4. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good post. Do you think Brazilians feels the same way about Diego right now? ;)
     
  5. Yourdaddy

    Yourdaddy New Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    Heartland
    I don't know what's wrong with Diego. He's never been a good coach and might be leaving Argentina just luck Sanchez did with Mexico. Not playing Riquelme should be a crime
     
  6. Yourdaddy

    Yourdaddy New Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    Heartland
    Good post, though. I started watching the Mex-CR game late and for a while I thought CR was winning. I started to ask myself. Who are these guys wearing the Mexico uniform? Where have they been. I am not complaining, but this is turning into a hollywood type ending for them.
     
  7. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    fyp
     
  8. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Hugo Sanchez team was flying high; third place in Copa America (destroying the likes of Paraguay 6-0)and a one-nil friendly win over Ghana in England. Sanchez was sacked because of political reasons with the U-23 Olympic qualifier debacle at Carson used as an excuse.

    Had Sanchez remained at the helm the Tricolor would of not had any problems in the first round of qualifiers and would of been playing as good as they currently are under Aguirre. As for Sven; his main problem was timing.

    Sven was brought in with WCQ underway and a NT which was divided. Blanco retirering, during the Swedes tenure, and now back with the NT but Oswaldo Sanchez and Pavel Pardo (who both held the Captains armband under Sven) no longer in the picture is no coincidence. In any case Mexico's main problems have been internal. We can not expect a team that has had 4 coaching changes in one WCQ cycle to maintain a competetive level.

    Anyways, given enough time to work with the NT and figure out WTF was going on with the Tricolor I am sure that Sven would have eventually figured things out. If anything the Gold Cup has been key in helping Aguirre get the Mexican NT back in shape.
     
  9. SoDamnSmooth

    SoDamnSmooth Red Card

    Oct 17, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Thank you Sven...
     
  10. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    I still think we're better than them, and with a little better play from Clark and Bradley, we beat them in Mexico.
     
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  11. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As long as we are giving thanks, let's also tip our hats to CUBA. Were it not for their amazing upset of Guatemala, our boys might be playing in the unfriendly confines of Guatemala tomorrow, instead of in TnT.
     
  12. JediMindTricks

    Jun 20, 2006
    Houston
    so we're joining a list of many other teams that have to thank sven?

    thanks, sven.
     
  13. JcUSA

    JcUSA New Member

    Jul 26, 2003
    Boca Raton, Fl
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SHUT UP Sven!!!

    P.S. I miss that show.
     
  14. shooter6065

    shooter6065 Member

    Nov 16, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    For Mexico it was not really a tactical change that Aguirre did but he moved out some incompetents (Pardo, Sanchez) and brought in Blanco who is now pulling the strings and a couple others. Blanco has really taken to the MLS fitness program. I am not sure if that head case Nery Castilllo is long for that team either.
     
  15. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    No way. Thank you Aguirre.

    We need to test ourselves.

    The last 3 years feel like a series of false confidence builders. I would much rather the US be in a qualifying group with Denmark, Portugal, Finland and Serbia.

    We have tried to play very good teams, but it seems friendlies to them are just kind of a run in the park.
     
  16. radmonkey

    radmonkey Member

    Oct 27, 2007
    One could play this game forever, Mexico playing the way it is now, maybe gets a point in Columbus or better.
     
  17. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    el tri gets too full of itself and honduras will get points wednesday evening...

    that's the sort of hex it's been..
     
  18. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    Or...

    Screw you, Sven. If you had been able to win or draw down at Honduras, we would have three clear now at the top of the table.
     
  19. JcUSA

    JcUSA New Member

    Jul 26, 2003
    Boca Raton, Fl
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great point. They allowed Honduras to join the party.
     
  20. SoDamnSmooth

    SoDamnSmooth Red Card

    Oct 17, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Honduras might pull something out. They are playing well right now.. but I think they'll shit the bed in Mexico.
     
  21. Chiquitibum

    Chiquitibum Member+

    Apr 4, 2004
    Norte
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    article on aguirre

    hes saying he truly respects HOnduras. They know how good a team this is.
     
  22. DaTruth

    DaTruth Member+

    Jul 15, 2007
    IE, Cali
    has the U.S beaten mexico in mexico? or did you mean one day we'll beat them in mexico.
     
  23. Prime Time

    Prime Time Member

    May 1, 2004
    South Florida
    Riquelme retired from international soccer.
     
  24. FCNYC

    FCNYC Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    NYC
    Excellent post, interesting how crazy it got for Mexico in one cycle and they could still win the group. I really care about the US clinching, but it would be sad if mexico did not make it.
     
  25. SoDamnSmooth

    SoDamnSmooth Red Card

    Oct 17, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    For all the crap that was talked, it will be awesome if Mexico finished up in first place.
     

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