The Steroids Thread

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by 655321, Sep 28, 2004.

  1. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    Well, Roger Maris is from North Dakota, so it could have something to do with state pride, since their only other major athletic figure is Phil Jackson.
     
  2. (TxT)

    (TxT) Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    Tampa, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Devil Rays' Sanchez Suspended for Steroids

     
  3. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Hey, Bonds haters....

    where is teh vitrol against Sanchez....surely since you hate based on principle you gotta want Sanchez lynched too, right?
     
  4. fiddlestick

    fiddlestick New Member

    Jul 17, 2001
    The 4 8 0
    Castro injected him. I blame Castro.
     
  5. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He plays for the Devil Rays - that's punishment enough.
     
  6. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    Truthfully, the lack of outrage by the media and a majority of fans only underlines their hypocrisy.
     
  7. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    This is an interesting take from a guy who writes for the San Antonio paper. He is in no way a sports columnist, for the most part he does anti-big business, anti-pop culture writing. The website is subscription only, so I'll just show the part that is relevant to the discussion:

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/columnists/mgreenberg/stories/MYSA041005.1Z.greenberg.1b584b5e6.html

     
  8. Microwave

    Microwave New Member

    Sep 22, 1999

    First I will say that Sanchez should be thrown out of the league. He's a cheater.

    However it's not the same as Bonds so Sanchez won't get treated the same in the media. Let's recap the Bonds siutation:

    1) Bonds is a jerk to the media and fans for years.

    2) Bonds starts hitting a zillion homers AFTER he turns 35.

    3) Balco is investigated by the FBI. Bonds has ties to Balco. A steroid (aka cheating) scandal erupts involving several of MLB's top home run hitters.

    4) When the number one hitter/record breaker is asked about the cheating, Bonds blames the media, lies, grandstands and changes the topic.

    5) Bonds mysteriously will miss the season (or at least most of it).


    I think it's time to face the facts that Barry Bonds is a cheater and Barry Bonds is an **************. these two things aren't really up for debate anymore. Hank Aaron was a real hitter. Musial was a real hitter. Maris was a real hitter. Sosa, Mcgwire, Giambi and Bonds are pathetic cheaters.
     
  9. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    This just shows how little the guy knows. We've gone over this many times, so it gets tiresome beating this dead horse, but steroids, according to testimonials from users, help in EVERY aspect of many sporting events. And if you just look at the other sports that have scandals involving steroids: soccer, sprinting, bicycling, swimming, etc., the idea that "brute strength" is the only advantage they offer is laughable.


    Anyway, Mike and Mike on ESPN are getting ready to interview Rick Sutcliffe, who is going to talk about some "big names" who are about to be suspended for positive tests.

    Free syringe to whoever guesses correctly.

    I'm going with.....

    NOMAR GARCIAPARRA
     
  10. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    so what was said?
     
  11. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    He basically said, "I heard some names over the weekend, and I'm not sure what the delay is. Maybe there is some sort of appeal going on."

    Sounded like more than one big name, and it sounded like we might have to wait a few days.

    Half of me wonders if Sutcliffe isn't talking now because he's worried that MLB is trying to protect its stars. Kind of a shot across the bow in case they are considering not releasing the names of these stars. Afterwards, he was very passionate about how dumb and ineffectual the current 10 day suspension policy is.
     
  12. fiddlestick

    fiddlestick New Member

    Jul 17, 2001
    The 4 8 0
    I'm more concerned with guys ending up on the 15 day DL with a "hamstring problem."
    What's to say that won't happen to cover up bigger name guys?
     
  13. XYZ

    XYZ New Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Big Cat Country
    I can't stop laughing.

    There's a weekly program on the PBS station in St. Louis called "Donnybrook", billed as "polite converstion on local issues". (I have to confess that I think it's just about the best thing on TV, peroid)

    Well, anyway. Among the letters from viewers this week was one from a viewer who suggested they should remove from their set a picture of Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire.

    And they did it!

    It was priceless, one of the funniest couple of seconds of TV I ever saw.

    Who'd have thought that McGwire, once worshiped as a god in St. Louis, would have sunk so low.

    In all seriousness, that was one of the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life.

    I have to admit that I thought McGwire might be able to get his reputation back if he would admit to having used steroids. But, now that I see what a joke he has become even among what were once his staunchest supporters, I'm not so sure that even that would be enough.

    It's not an illusion. That section of I-70 named "Mark McGwire Highway" is somewhat thicker and bulkier than most other sectons of interstate. - Thank you, Rich Gould, my favorite local TV sports reporter.

    Is it just me, or do others think that the publicity regarding steroids might actually increase interest in baseball? - on the theory that there is no such thing as bad publicity.
     
  14. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Or could it be that he heard wrong? Or could it be that the network lawyers heard from him what he heard and told him that it didn't meet the network's standards?

    The name I've been hearing lately is a guy whose been retired since before testing started... are coaches tested? I don't even know if he's a coach-- maybe its part of his palimony agreement that he be tested? In other words I'm running into the story with absolutely no indication of how this fact is supposed to have been discovered. Sometimes where there's smoke there's fire, sometimes only overdone toast...
     
  15. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I've been satying this for months. Truthfully, steroids helped save baseball.
     
  16. BlueMeanie

    BlueMeanie New Member

    Apr 1, 2002
    EastSIIIIDE
    EGM "Rest of the Crap" reviewer, renowned Super Friends expert, and general Renaissance man Seanbaby checked in on steroids in his column in the latest Wave Magazine:

    Winners use drugs by Seanbaby

     
  17. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    Now Dykstra's name is being thrown in the mix. I'd have been shocked if it had come out that he wasn't on steroids.
     
  18. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    More troubling to me are the gambling allegations.
     
  19. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Yeah-- but they're old news... I never did understand why Willie and Mickey had to be suspended for working as casino greeters, but Dyksta and Belle could make high stakes bets without being banned...

    And now there's whispers about Nomar because he gets hurt all the time; but a few weeks ago folks were assuring us that we know Junior is clean because he gets hurt all the time...

    Incidentally Dykstra's not the retired player I was referring to above...
     
  20. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Tom House walked the timeline way way back today-- said something to the efeect that there were six or seven pitchers on every staff in the sixties and seventies (its not clear which parts of his statement were referent to which other parts, so I qualified the above.) Said it never did a thing for his fastball but he bulked up and it helped his recovery time...
     
  21. BlueMeanie

    BlueMeanie New Member

    Apr 1, 2002
    EastSIIIIDE
    Tom House...on 'roids? Wow.

    From today's SF Chron:

    House a 'failed experiment' with steroids by Ron Kroichick


    For those who don't remember the '70s, Tom House was an okay relief pitcher for Atlanta, Boston and Seattle. Known in trivia as the Braves bullpen pitcher who caught Hank Aaron's 715th homer.

    Afterward, he retired to Coronado, CA, near San Diego, in the early 80s, opened a sporting goods store on Orange Ave. (Coronado's main street) and spent a couple seasons as a volunteer pitching coach for Coronado High School.

    Pretty much right after he opened the store my sophomore year, I remember going to it for some new soccer boots, and wound up walking out with those as well as some beautiful adidas metal baseball cleats, some other baseball equipment, and a conviction to try out for baseball come that spring. Nice guy, and a helpful coach. (Unfortunately, my heart wasn't in playing JV, I hated the head coach, and quit right before the season to swim varsity, which was way cooler since that was our school's best sport.)

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  22. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Re: Tom House...on 'roids? Wow.

    Then again maybe not-- apparently he says now that he misspoke--he tried steroids for a couple of years and there were six or seven people on every staff who used amphetamines, but he didn't mean to say that they used steroids...
     
  23. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I just turned on the Orioles Tigers game and saw Pudge Rodriguez up. HOLY SH!T, I didn't even recognize him. They say he's down to 185 from 215. :eek:
     

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