The Steroids Thread

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by 655321, Sep 28, 2004.

  1. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    He'll blow Ruth's record out the water and he'll do it this season.
     
  2. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Maybe not:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...ng/2005/03/22/bonds.out.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

    I wouldn't mind so much him going past Ruth if he hadn't made those stupid comments about wanting to pass him basically cause Ruth was white. I will have to find the exact quote, but to me that just summed up what an ass Bonds is.
     
  3. SgtSchultz

    SgtSchultz Member

    Jul 11, 2001
    Parts Unknown
    I'll paraphrase Bonds. You broke me. My kids are crying. Go pick on someone else. For years we have had to deal with this guy's arrogance and now the shoe is other foot. He can't handle the truth. His named should be changed to Baby Bonds.

    For those who are Barry supporters, look at your hero. He can't stand the heat. Kind of reminds me of another so-called hero, Big Mac.
     
  4. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Ditto, Bonds can cry me a river and I could care less. Here's a man making a bazilion dollars playing a GAME and he acts like a little prima donna bitch. Face it, he got caught and his attitude over the years make people revel in his demise. I hope he never puts on the uniform again and disgraces a proud game played by thousands of proud FAIR men. I say if you want to put an asterisk next to anybodys name, put it next to Ruth's. * Denotes he hit all of his home runs on beer and hotdogs.
     
  5. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    Yea, cause he's had it really easy for so long right?? Puhleeeease. While I agree that he sorta flipped out yesterday, I will say that he's been dealing with this pressure for a long time, and very very well. He's possibly the only pro athlete that people HOPE is on steroids.
     
  6. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then there goes their division title that everyone is predicting. Their team is much different when he's not playing.
     
  7. BlueMeanie

    BlueMeanie New Member

    Apr 1, 2002
    EastSIIIIDE
    SORTA flipped out?

    My guess is that Sunday's SF Chronicle article was the straw that broke the camel's back for Barry, mentally. If the ex-mistress hadn't mentioned that Barry told her he did roids, the article probably wouldn't have been published. Some of the other stuff was quite personal, but hey, that's life under the microscope and Bonds should deal with it better.

    One of Barry's biggest problems, IMO, is that he grew up a child of privilege, has pretty much had his ass kissed his whole life, was allowed to do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted, and never had to admit when he did something wrong. I think it's perfectly normal -- in Barry's eyes -- to deny everything, try to deflect the blame to the media, etc. He's never had to be accountable.

    I think there's more to it than meets the eye, though. Barry played well after other crises, such as his divorce from Sun and his father Bobby's death. But he also did take a little time off to regroup before/after his father's death, and he could quite possibly be exaggerating the knee injury publicly in order to get some down time now. The only thing I'll say in Barry's defense at this point is that it must be mentally taxing to deal with all the steroid hoo-ha coupled with the frustration of being seriously injured for the first time in his career. The combination of the two would get anyone stressed out.
     
  8. SoccerScout

    SoccerScout Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    Internacional Porto Alegre
    Some reporters GET IT and have the balls to write it:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7269936/
    Spare us the pity party, Barry
    Star has nerve to blame media for image he created


    Some reporters are JACKA$$ES and still KISS UP to Bonds despite him being acheater and jerk:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7267819/
    Bonds may miss mark, but you've got to admire historic chase


    Admire???? Admire what that he juiced up and cheated to get where he is?? What a disgrace. If Bonds returns (I doubt it ..he will hide from all this) idiots like Celizic will continue to suck up to this cheater.
     
  9. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    When was the last time you took a nice dump?? I can't imagine you do it that often...
     
  10. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    You are a broken record completely devoid of original or insightful thoughts.
     
  11. XYZ

    XYZ New Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Big Cat Country
    Hotdogs were legal when Ruth played.
     
  12. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Did Barry use steroids? Yeah, probably, The circumstancial evidence is pretty strong. Is that enough for me to say that he definitely used them? No. Why don't we wait for the investigations to be over? I don't understand this insane desire for instant gratification when the whole Balco thing is in the courts. We'll find out soon enough, and if Bonds IS cleared, to my admitted surprise, a lot of people will end up with asshat pie on their face. And while I've never had asshat pie, I don't hear good things.
     
  13. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But you left off the BEER!!

    Were they legal? Did he drink before the legal age limit of the time?
    How could he be such a good pitcher AND hitter?

    Inquiring minds want to know.....

    Boy did I just date myself there or what?
     
  14. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    Thanks...

    I'll add that I won't be completely surprised if I do get close-up with some asshat pie. I just think we have every reason to see this one through, and that automatically branding him a Conseco or Caminiti type roid user is totally unfair at this point in time.
     
  15. XYZ

    XYZ New Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Big Cat Country
    Actually, alcohol was illegal for much of Ruth's career. Prohibition began in 1920 and ended in 1933. Ruth played from 1914 to 1935.
     
  16. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I know, I was kinda being tonque in cheek when I was saying that.
     
  17. Real Ray

    Real Ray Member

    May 1, 2000
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After reading Gary Smith's SI cover story and now this, I think we have a group of writers who can be called the, Wrath Of the Summer Of '98 Guys . All the guys who participated in the longball, love-in, who now feel like chumps.

    And look at the brushback he tosses at Clemens:
     
  18. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Yes. I have substantial doubts for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that as far as I could tell he actually didn't invoke the fifth and they didn't threaten to cite him for unresponsiveness...
     
  19. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpcDBuM2RlBF9TAzk1ODYxNzc3BHNlYwN0aA--?slug=ap-maris-homerunrecord&prov=ap&type=lgns



    North Dakota Senate backs restoring Roger Maris' home run recordBy DALE WETZEL, Associated Press Writer
    March 31, 2005

    "BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) -- The North Dakota Senate unanimously approved a resolution Thursday asking baseball commissioner Bud Selig to reinstate Roger Maris' 61 home runs in 1961 as the major league record. Maris' mark has been surpassed six times since 1998, but baseball's steroids scandal has called the recent records into question. ``In North Dakota when we think something has been wrong, we try to make it right,'' said Sen. Joel Heitkamp, a Democrat who sponsored the resolution. ``And when it comes to Roger Maris, and when it comes to steroids, and when it comes to how people have taken this record away ... that's not right.''
     
  21. PsychedelicCeltic

    PsychedelicCeltic New Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    San Francisco/London
    Wow, North Dakota really is a worthless state if they pulled that crap. That is political grandstanding at its finest. It's moments like these that make me think libertarians have a point.

    I don't like steroids, but the number of people against steroids who also happen to have huge political agendas has really made me stick two fingers up at the anti-steroid crowd. Plus everything short of Satan-worshipping has been accused at steroids and at its users.
     
  22. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
  23. PsychedelicCeltic

    PsychedelicCeltic New Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    San Francisco/London
  24. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    :rolleyes: Puhleeease...
     
  25. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    Hopefully, this will help dispel the myth that it's only the bulked up guys who are using. Steroids (and doping in general) are used by all types of athletes with all types of bodies: lean sprinters like Marian Jones, endurance bikers like Tyler Hamilton and Richard Virenque, soccer players, basketball players, and on and on...

    As many users have attested, they improve just about every aspect of your game, in just about every game. This is particularly important for baseball fans, as roids apologists often parrot the line about how "they can't help you hit a changeup." Bullshiit. Absolutely they can and do.
     

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