The search for top class English/British managers.

Discussion in 'England' started by YankBastard, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It’s all a mess. Only silver lining is being before the window shuts does sometimes push through more transfers.

    I expected to win but on reflection I shouldn’t. I’m currently on holiday and they seem to always lose the matches I expect them to when I’m on holiday (But then sometimes win the matches I don’t expect to against the top clubs.)
     
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  2. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    I don't particularly rate Parker, at least as a premier league tier manager, but he really got screwed over by Burnley losing perhaps their 3 best players from last season, 2 of them without even a transfer fee to reinvest.

    There are other issues there, their business in the transfer market has been horrendous, and Parker has historically been very poor at being able to adapt playing style to the premier league, but its so difficult for promoted teams to be competitive in the premier league nowadays at the best of times, yet alone losing the spine of your team for very little.
     
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  3. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Graham Potter ain't lasting long this season. Chelsea haven't even been good here but have scored three. West Ham are playing a back five but look on the verge of conceding every time Chelsea put their foot on the gas slightly.

    I don't think he's been done any favours with some of the squad but I also don't know why he's using a setup that doesn't get the best out of what he's got.
     
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  4. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    Can´t understand why he doesn´t trust Freddie Potts more who´s been their bes midfileder in pre season imo. Something similar happened with Moyes and Mubama some seasons ago too unfortunately...
     
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  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    And he would be get a lot more leeway if he did.
     
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  6. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    I think Potter's career is just starting to look like someone who has basically been propelled forward on media hype of playing the "right way", a more successful Russell Martin if you will.

    In the cold light of day his record in England looks pretty unimpressive. Swansea were relegated from the premier league which usually makes for a strong side, yet he finished 10th with them. Made worse by the fact Cooper took them to the play offs in back to back seasons the two following years. At Brighton, he finished 15th, 16th, and 9th. Certainly successful in the grand scheme of things but nothing astonishing, particularly given he inherited a Brighton side who had got over the difficult first 2 years in the premier which is the really tough part. Then at Chelsea he obviously got sacked the same year. Now West Ham has become a damp squib where its increasingly looking like a bad case of a manager trying to fit players to a failing system rather than work with what he has.

    There are some mitigating factors there too in those jobs but its all in all its making for a pretty unimpressive record. Not over for him yet at West Ham of course but they do have a strong whiff of a side going through the motions waiting for a managerial change.
     
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  7. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yep. They're massively lacking in athleticism too, which Potts brings a good amount of. Bringing in Soucek to play in a midfield two after they blatantly lacked legs against Sunderland utterly stinks of panic.
     
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  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    West Ham boss Graham Potter is safe from the sack for now, but the 50-year-old Englishman needs to improve results soon if he wants to remain in his role at the London Stadium. (Mirror)

    Brendan Rodgers is Nottingham Forest's top target when they make their move for a new boss. (The Sun)
     
  9. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If Man United get rid of Amorim you can make a pretty strong argument for them going for Eddie Howe. He's a strong culture guy, which is reportedly what they want, and is just a damn good coach on a tactical level.

    You feel like it's going to take years and years for Newcastle to be able to work themselves into a financial position where they can afford to assemble a world beating squad - if ever at all. They'll just keeping losing their best players.

    We don't know what Howe's ceiling is as a coach but I think he's earned the right to be backed with a world-class team.
     
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  10. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    True, but we both know Man Utd will go for a big name foreign coach.
     
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  11. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I think he'll take over from Tuchel next year
     
  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Newcastle need to start getting some wins or Eddie Howe might be in danger.
     
  13. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    You really are having a mare today mate!
     
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  14. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    I do wonder with Howe what the expectation is on him from the owners, I think realistically he's taken Newcastle as far as they're going to go unless rules change on financial fair play. A occasional champions league side, competitive in domestic cups seems the ceiling for them. As seen with the Isak situation its always going to be a struggle for them to get and keep top players.

    I think a downturn is to be expected for them this season given how they struggled with the extra games last time, plus losing Isak, and a massive overperformance last season from some mediocre players like Murphy.
     
  15. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think the Saudis will move on from Newcastle in the coming years. I can't see them ever being able to build to the point of being a consistent title contending club in the PSR era.

    When Man United inevitably move on from Amorim, they should go all in for Howe and Howe should jump at it. Regardless of the struggles that come with the job, he'll at least get a level of backing and talent retention that's impossible at Newcastle.
     
  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Or PAR gets changed. Who knows if Saudi try some diplomatic pressure to change things,
     
  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    Steve Cooper moves to the Danish League
     
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  19. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    Guess who´s back? Back again... Looks like Wilder has accepted to return to managing us after Selles´ deserved sacking after our pathetic and inexcusable start to the season. Now just imagine the uproar if it was the other way round if a foreign manager with the standing of Wilder at Dem Blades (or any other English club for that matter) had been sacked for a rather unproven young English hipster manager and this would be the result!
     
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  20. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
     
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  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    Even in the championship we don’t get that many derbies with two English managers anymore.
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Crystal Palace manager Oliver Glasner, former England boss Gareth Southgate, Fulham chief Marco Silva and Bournemouth's Andoni Iraola are among the potential replacements for Ruben Amorim should Manchester United sack him. (Daily Star)

    West Ham have also started to consider potential successors to under-pressure boss Graham Potter and want someone who can galvanise the squad and the club's fanbase. (Teamtalk), external
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Looks like Russell Martin is close to the sack from Rangers.
     
  25. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Would've thought he'd been close to the sack a month ago
     
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