Basically, the Salvadorans have been pissed because of the trading of Raul Diaz Arce many years ago and some less than tactful statements made by the GM. Their reaction has been to come to DC games only when the opposing team had a Salvadoran on the team so they could root against DC and jeer Etcheverry and Moreno. Most unpleasant when coupled with poor behavior (excessive drunkeness, public urination, fights in the parking lot and stands). Threads that might provide some insight: https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=1867 https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=2029 There would be more, but, well, you know... My opinion is that the reaction from the community is not deserving of special treatment. I would treat them like I'd treat a child of mine who misbehaved to get his way. Ignore him until he behaves. But, others don't feel the same and maybe he really was the best out there given the price, etc.
There were a couple Salvadorans who made there way into BB/SE and cheered their asses off for DC. I say welcome back. Quintanilla looks better than advertised.
I hope he was brought in to boost attendance. I'm sure he's qualified, but MLS needs to do everything that it can to improve attendance.
I meant I'm not defending and "x" player or my fellow countrymen bad behavior I just wanted an explanation and to be totally honest i just know that Cheyo came of the U-17 NT nothing more! I'm not that sure what position he plays!
It is a very simple assement here. There were no problems to report last night. Now will that be the case in the future, we will see. I think the increased security needs to stay in place for the next few matches. Then we can say yes or no if it is needed at that point.
Mario I also think that US soccer fans have some different expectations about the make up and behavior of crowds than folks in Europe or Latin America. MLS has worked very hard to try and capture a "family market" and has put considerable effort to attract those families that have children playing youth soccer. The crowds tend to be largely middle class and for many it is a pleasant diversion for the evening, not a matter of life and death as it is for so many hardcore fans. I have been to games throughout Europe and Latin America and in my experience it is a very different crowd that shows up to games. Several times I have been locked into sections, escorted by police, etc. for games. I had never really thought of attending a football match as a "family event" until MLS began.
Q2 and the Sallies The Sallies in 211 were only cheering for Q2 last night. They also cheered for Chacon when he came into the game. Chacon has expressed an interest in playing full time. Right now, he is a sub at NE. Maybe .... If Q2 is El Salvador's hope for the future, the USMNT will not have to worry about them in qualifying
In the first row of Section 120 were a couple of guys wearing the colors of Q2's former club. They were awesome - they sang with LaNorte, they cheered for United and by the end of the night one of them was wearing a United tshirt over his CD Aquila jersey. I witnessed no problems at all nor did I feel the least bit menaced. There was definitely more security than usual - in the form of DC police officers so maybe that helped keep the hooligan element in check. Whatever, it was a great atmosphere and our new striker played his little heart out.
Barra Brava Will always welcome all those who really support D.C. United Barra Brava Will NEVER welcome those who come to see and cheer just ONE player.
I'm happy to say that the whole ES thing was a non-issue last night. Everyone was in control last night(security included.) even after some joker set of some firecrackers in the BB/SE. I hope it continues, now if we could just put the biscuit in the basket.......
I was impressed with many things with last nights game. 1) Eddie Pope. I remembered telling my father one day how wonderful it would be to have him play forward. He has speed, height, but the ball skills are abit questionable. I hope it wont be the last time I see him play as a forward. 2) Salvadorean Fans. THEY BEHAVED BIG TIME. Even when Diaz Arze was here, the Salvadorean fans still mistreated females and seemed to resort to fighting each other for the hell of it. Last night was the first night EVER that a fight did not break out with a house full of El Salvadoreans. Some did cheer for United, but when ever their country man received the ball, the stadium errupted. I dont care who they cheer for as long as the Sallies can urinate in the right places and pinch the asses of only their wives, girl friends, significant other or what ever. Just not our wives, girlfriends or significant other. 3) The quantity of people in LA Norte is increasing, but the quality has gone down. This Saturday should be good since we should have some of our diehard fans comming for the All Star Match.
As far as I could see last night, there was only one beer thrown and that was by "Gringo Loco". We suck. Sachin
The main thing to note in this thread should be that people have obviously been overreacting to the entire ES issue. --There were no riots, fights, or orgies of public lewdness. For all of the bitching and moaning there were just a lot of people there wearing black, red, and blue. --95% were cheering for the same team. Maybe certain players on the team more then others, but that can be said for the Barra Brava, La Norte, SE's OR Salvadorians. --Add this night to the last hispanic heritage night and you have two extreme examples of why people should take a deep breath and think before they start to rant. They also should be sending out apologies for all the crap that was said about Quintanillia. He was easily one the best players in on the field. --I don't know what the future holds for the entire issue, but based on last night a lot of people around here were proven wrong.
ride on! ride on! this is turning the mls into equal playing opportunity league...This is why united is the worst team in the league! Why don't we just get 11 salvadorans here and forget about improving our homegrown boys.
I dunno etcheverrito, but maybe they picked up Quintanilla because... -he is better than Lassiter -he is better than Curtis -he is young and will improve -he doesn't count as a full SI, and won't for a couple years But having said that, yes, I think we should cut Quintanilla and work on developing Dennis Ludwig
McOwen, to be fair to the skeptics/critics of the whole deal, I don't think they were worried so much about when there is an El S player ON the team, it's if/when the player eventually has to LEAVE. If DCU has to cut or trade him for business or performance reasons, there is a worry that we might see a repeat of the RDA trouble all over again. And of course we can't know what will happen until that day comes. I for one hope that Q2 plays for United until he's 35 and that he gets 15 goals and 10 assists every year.
As I stated before I don't know nothing bout MLS so pls forgive my ignorance how many games, how long is the season?
So we all have our jobs cut out for us until Q2 leaves... and that's to be as welcoming and friendly as we can to those new fans who are ES player specific and convert them into DC United fans. Then maybe we won't have the problems some worry about. I was very pleased with the way things went last night... including having some ES fans come down into the SE section where I was during the second half. I made sure they knew I was happy they were there.
Well, he might be better than curtis, but curtis is american...we are not here to develop CONCACAF players so that they can spit on us, throw bags of piss on us or have them show up at our stadiums to do the same... I rather see curtis develop into a better players as well as I like to see quintanilaa to improve but not at the expense of a young american player. Lassiter has to go!!!