The Round of 16 and Beyond

Discussion in 'Euro 2024 - Germany' started by Iranian Monitor, Jun 27, 2024.

  1. Which countries really improved and which ones were at last coached to their abilities?
     
  2. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Will have to disagree. Thought they were poor. They navigated the group and easy round of 16 draw they got, but were not even remotely competitive against Argentina until they changed tactics with 10 minutes to go.

    Of course, I acknowledge that NED might have been a bad example for me because they were not healthy for these Euros. If they had their 2 best midfielders they'd be alot better, imo.
     
  3. ChicagoKev

    ChicagoKev New Member

    Jun 26, 2010
    I agree that Spain has played better. But sometimes the better team doesn't win. I think England just has that "team of destiny" aura around them, where they simply find ways to win, even if it means they don't always look good doing it. Pretty or not, they keep edging out victories. I don't particularly care for them, or want them to win, but I think they do more of the same... they'll find a way to win against Spain and secure their first title in this tourney.
     
  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    They do seem to have that type of attitude and confidence that no matter how bad things are going they can get the job done.

    But this Spain team seems to be playing at such a high level with talent everywhere and young kids who have no fear at all.

    Maybe England can take advantage of Spain's Keeper who sometimes makes some really bad decisions. That may be the only way they win this thing but if I were a betting man I would say Spain finds a way to lift up the trophy in Berlin and bet the house on them tonight.
     
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  5. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    I have Spain winning tonight
     
  6. Myshoe

    Myshoe Member+

    May 25, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #131 Myshoe, Jul 14, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2024
    I'm not saying Spain haven't been the best team in the tournament, they have been. I just don't think they're anything special. Mbappe had a fairly easy chance to score late on in the match and skied his shot over the bar. Germany also had plenty of chances that they failed to take. I think all of the other teams have been very disappointing this tournament.

    Portugal playing with 10 men (carrying Ronaldo).
    England playing with 10 men (carrying Kane) and being horribly negative due to Gareth Safegate.
    France hardly ever looked like scoring.
    Italy knocked out by Switzerland.

    I suppose Germany were the only other decent looking "big" team and like I said they missed chances that the Germany of old would have buried, they were also a tad unlucky what with the handball that wasn't given.

    Spain could still yet lose to England (probably not but hey I'm English and we always get our hopes up).
     
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  7. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    Prediction was on point.
     
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  8. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    #133 persianfootball, Jul 14, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2024
    Spain being amateur today, going up too much and exposing themselves for a counterattack goal late in the game instead of using their superior possession and passing to draw out England.

    Spain and Germany were the only good big teams this tournament, but neither was special. Having said that, I think Spain will continue to dominate (well not dominate, but relatively be better than other big teams) over the next decade. We are in an era without much individually brilliant players, and too much focus on team play and athleticism and conservative play. Spain's already pioneered passing/possession style is most immune to this change compared to the other teams.

    It is interesting, Spain is now the all time best team in the euros, ahead of Germany and Italy, but in the world cup their record is still worse then a handful of European teams.
     
  9. DutchFanatic

    DutchFanatic Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Dec 23, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Congratulations to Spain! Very deserved winner. Beat the best teams and did it without much controversy or false play.

    Also the ref was great, didn’t fall for any of England’s dives. I wish we had this ref for our semi-final game.
     
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  10. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Congratulations to Spain. Well deserved champions. Won every game, set new records, impressed the most, while showcasing some brilliant young talents.
     
  11. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Spain become the first team since 2002 Brazil to win a major tournament with seven consecutive victories.....
     
  12. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    #137 persianfootball, Jul 14, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2024
    There is so much less individual talent these days.

    Look at the top scorer list:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024#Statistics

    Who are stand out names? Mbappe. Kane. Bellingham. Other than that no real superstars. The likes of Gakpo would come next, but check out all the Dutch names below in 1 Netherlands team that matched or were better than the likes of Gapko.

    Compare it to Euro 2012:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012#Statistics

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Fernando Torres
    Balotelli
    Xabi Alonso
    Fabregas
    Silva
    Iniesta
    Xavi
    Ibra
    Gerrard
    Shevchenko
    Pirlo
    Van Persie
    Rooney
    Lewandowski
    Klose
    Casillas
    Buffon
    Neuer
    Shay Given
    Robben
    Sneijder
    Pepe
    etc.... I am not even counting the likes of Cassano, Podolski, Keane, Van der Vaart, Huntelaar, Kuyt, etc..

    btw, did Jesus Navas just become the most decorated Spanish international player of all time? 2 euros and 1 world cup. It could have been 3 euros if he overcame his anxiety just a year earlier to not miss euro 2008.
     
  13. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Get in Spain £100 in my pocket tomorrow at work got them in the sweep
     
  14. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member+

    May 23, 2018
    I'd say these are the ranks from best to worst in Euro 2024 concluding the tournament:

    1. Spain
    2. Germany
    3. France
    4. Portugal
    5. England
    6. Switzerland
    7. Austria (loss to Turkey was an upset for sure)
    8. Slovenia
    9. Denmark
    10. Netherlands
    11. Turkey
    12. Belgium
    13. Italy
    14. Croatia
    15. Slovakia
    16. Albania
    17. Hungary
    18. Czech Republic
    19. Poland
    20. Romania
    21. Ukraine
    22. Scotland
    23. Serbia
    24. Georgia (Only reached Last 16 due to Portugal not going for it and not really needing any points)
     
  15. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    I am only going to rank those that made the quarterfinals:

    1. Spain
    2. Germany
    3. England
    4. Netherlands
    5. France
    6. Switzerland
    7. Portugal
    8. Turkey
     
  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    That play looked offside anyway. (Plus, I mean his arm/hand was right by his body in a totally natural position - but yeah, sometimes those get wrongly called).
     
  17. StatsProfBielefeld

    StatsProfBielefeld New Member

    Hannover 96
    Germany
    Jun 2, 2026
    Still can't get over Cucurella's handball...
     
  18. StatsProfBielefeld

    StatsProfBielefeld New Member

    Hannover 96
    Germany
    Jun 2, 2026
    Hate to say it (as a German), but England was great.
     

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