Alert: The RMBS Euro 2024 Thread - Predictions & Discussion

That's a poor case as correlation does not equal causation.

 

I am well aware of the 1987 French generation, it will above all be remembered as a generation of chokers later on which proves my point about Benzema with France.

And yes I stand by what I wrote previously, that Portugal team of 2006 wasn't expected to win the World Cup. They couldn't even finish third. You are insane if you think Portugal stood any chances of winning a tournament around that time when you had the likes of Zidane, Henry, Vieira, Klose, Ballack, Lahm, Buffon, Del Piero, Cannavaro etc. as opponents or potential opponents.

 

Puskas, Di Stefano, Maldini, Barsei, Cruyff, Esuebio, Zico, Matthews, Laudrup, Figo, Best, Giggs, Shilton, Kubala, Kahn, Modric, Baggio, Sindelar, Matthews, Kopa, Socrates, Dalglish, Gento, Jose Manuel Moreno, Keegan, Neeskens, Nordahl, Charles, Fontaine, Papin, Albert, Cubillas, Stoichkov, Simonsen, Hugo Sanchez, Kocsis, etc.

 

You showed me a picture of the Portugal team of 2006, hence my response. In 2004, they lost to Greece (who was only taking part in its second Euro ever) twice including in the group stage and needed a penalty shootout to beat England. It doesn't exactly sound like they had the most talented team in the tournament or if they did then they choked big time.

I don't need to go to WIkipedia for clues, I remember those teams and those games like it was yesterday so your commentary was completely uncalled for.

 

It's not an excuse, it's an explanation and one that is easily verifiable. Yes Portugal weren't expected to win. Maybe in 2004 but definitely not in 2006. In 2004, their weaknesses were exploited and exposed in their very first group game of the tournament by Greece, a team who had only once before featured at a Euro tournament and never won a game at the Euros before facing Portugal. So much for home advantage which is an overrated concept in football anyways. In reality, home teams regularly crash out of a tournament earlier than expected or fail to win it, just ask Germany this year or France in 2016 or Brazil in 2014 or Germany in 2006 or Portugal in 2004 or Brazil in the Copa America in 2021. And that's not even counting teams like Bayern losing to penalties in the CL final at home against Chelsea.

Your comment about looking for clues on Wikipedia was completely unecessary and honestly kinda scabby. I didn't start following football yesterday or 2 weeks ago.

 

The Kahn-Kopke comparison doesn't work because Kahn ended up having a much bigger club AND national team career than Kopke after 1996.

At no point have I stated that Dani Alves and Neymar are legends, just that they are better and more successful players with Brazil than Benzema (and Modric) are with France and Croatia which is an undeniable fact. Also, neither Neymar or Dani Alves played a single minute in that 1-7 loss against Germany in 2014 and one could easily argue that Brazil wouldn't have lost so convincingly (or even lost at all) had they played. Neymar was injured and Dani Alves was an unused substitute so it's at best dishonest to claim that this 1-7 loss is their legacy with Brazil, it's really not.

Robinho was a fine player, arguably even underappreciated as he barely got any media recognition or attention compared to others.

 

Not at all, that's just you looking for gotcha moments where there are none. Kahn and Kopke didn't even play at same time throughout their careers. Kahn played another 5 years at club level and another 8 at national team level when Klopke retired in 2001 from Nurnberg and in 1998 from Germany.

 

Congratulations Spain. The best team throughout the tournament and the best team in the final. Very worthy winners. A great future ahead for that group of players!

 

I don't think Benzema is mediocre, I just don't think he is as great of a player as some like to pretend compared to the other ones I've mentioned. I have the same opinion about Ibrahimovic for instance who, on top of never winning anything with Sweden, never won a Champions League trophy even. He did win the Europa League with Manchester United but he was severely injured a few months prior and played no part in that success.

 

I saw a lot of English players taking their medals off immediately. Losers, weak mentality, at least wait until the ceremony is over. That's why they'll keep losing.

Not Bellingham, though. Always respectful.

 

The chair deserved it. He can do no wrong.

 

Thinking Messi is overrated after he won everything there was to win in football is way more ridiculous than me thinking players like Dani Alves and Neymar are better or at the very least more successful than Benzema. Dani Alves for instance has won 10 more trophies than Benzema has. Neymar has achieved more with Brazil than Benzema has with France. Those are simply facts.

 

Some on here don’t like Cristiano but the fact is, he’s the greatest goalscorer that ever lived.