The return of women's professional soccer.

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by SUSIE-Q, Oct 24, 2005.

  1. Morris20

    Morris20 Member

    Jul 4, 2000
    Upper 90 of nowhere
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Prepare to be surprised. Heck, Chicago won't have a team by then . . .
     
  2. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we've learned enough that lower division support doesn't necessarily translate into first division support.

    The new league needs to focus on a solid business plan based on expenses, revenue, national footprint looking towards television coverage. Does that mean some very good soccer markets might get left out? Sure as hell. But as we've seen, you can't dream things into being. You have to take it step by step with a true-blue plan that is generally conservative.
     
  3. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why, do you think the team in Chicago that is starting with the league won't last? Or did you not notice there was going to be a team in Chicago.
     
  4. Morris20

    Morris20 Member

    Jul 4, 2000
    Upper 90 of nowhere
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    I didn't notice that! Of course you can substitute any number of other large cities that have the kind of fan base that might support a top level women's league . . . Vancouver still isn't going to be part of the deal (kind of like Rochester in MLS).
     
  5. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sunil comments on the new league's ability to attract the world's top players, as reported by Goff in his blog entry, Gulati's Turn.

    Given the new league's structure he questions whether it would be able to afford Marta.

    Looks like just because AEG is in at LA, the new structure doesn't allow them to 'Beckham' the new league...

    He has more to say about the league in the interview.
     
  6. charlieblanko

    charlieblanko Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    cal south
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    If they want to be successful they are almost forced now to pull strings and get her.
     
  7. J@bay

    J@bay New Member

    Oct 2, 2007
    Fremont, CA
    Article in today's Soccer America Business Insider on new league, post-WWC:

    Will WWC Jump Start The New Women's League?
    Wednesday, Oct 3, 2007 8:00 PM ET
    By Marilyn Childress

    With the close of the 2007 FIFA Women's World Cup, the business of women's soccer needs to get aggressive. The success of women's soccer from youth and college to the women's national team and the pros depends on the support of many factions in the game. How these groups use the opportunity from the WWC exposure can set the stage for the new women's pro league and women's soccer in general....

    read the whole article at

    http://www.socceramerica.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=23780
     
  8. alincoln

    alincoln New Member

    Jan 30, 2005
    Is there anyway I can short ownership interests in this league?
     
  9. Peter Wilt

    Peter Wilt Member

    Jun 11, 1999
    Whitefish Bay, WI
    Unlike MLS and the WUSA, the new women's league is a traditional franchise model, so investing in the League directly is not possible, but you could invest in a franchise.

    The Chicago franchise, which i'm leading is sufficiently capitalized, yet it still holds several shares in reserve. Single shares in the syndicate that controls the majority of the interest are available for a mid-six-figure commitment. PM me if you are interested in learning more.

    peter
     
  10. Anthony

    Anthony Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Six figures? Does not include amounts after the decimal points?
     
  11. zhatso

    zhatso New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    The roll out date is early 2009. DeCiccio has already been hired to coach the Boston based team. Other cities include Chicago, D.C. and Los Angeles. There are 8 in all. The USSF is linking the new teams with existing MSL teams assuming the quality of the facilities, support structure and presumably a fan base.

    I always sigh (ok gag) a bit at the first whiff "conspiracy theory"....but...

    Would it be too far of stretch to think that Ryan was acting on USSF preference and that a collapse of support would settle the sticky wicket, persistant question about reviving a women's league? And how would such a barely competent man accomplish this task alone?

    Shall we count the ways:

    Divide the team up into three parts and train them separately then forget to put them back together before the world cup?

    Take the team over to China way to early?

    Bring along a coach's favorite, Marci Jobson who is an undisciplined player without a lot to contribute instead of player like Lauren Cheney?

    Publicly declaring his "new" more physical and direct play to be superior game style and mock those who play the "old" possession game?

    Deluding himself that Scurry could be a "secret weapon" against the Brazilians?

    Ignore Phil Wheddon's (goalkeeping coach) advice that changing goalkeepers was a bad idea?

    Ignoring the history of the game, the commentators, other team's coachs (especially the Brazilian coach "now it not the time") as well as Wheddon that his plan to swap goalkeepers was ill-conceived?

    Not putting Solo in the box after the 2nd goal?

    Relying on one player, Wambach, to save the team?

    Playing Lilly when she was clearly ineffectual?

    Instructing the team to play "physical" leading to Boxx's 2 yellow card rejection from the game?

    In the face of defeat, continuing to warm the bench with offensive players
    like Wagner, Tarpley and Kai?

    Insulting the Brazilians publically before the game?

    Not travelling with the team psychologist?

    Not believing that "team chemistry" is like another player in the game?

    Laughing and giggling from the sidelines as the team was defeated?

    Boasting that he was "not devastated" but "felt for the players"?

    Suggesting that he has more work to do with the team?

    Throwing Hope Solo out at the same time he extols the high ideal of loyalty and family?

    Suggesting that Holo needs to "live right" to be redeemed?

    It is too painful to go on.

    But you can take it to the bank, that if the fanbase shrinks why would sponsors and advertisers be willing to back a new league? And if there are no backers, where is the league?

    And at the same time as the defeat, the Federation rolls out it's new Youth Development program.......for men?

    Perhaps I am imagining things? Perhaps I should attend the annual meeting at the luxurious resort in Hawaii in February to see for myself?

    Or perhaps I should just watch the Galaxy play some mediocre soccer, and be glad for it?

    ZHATSO
     
  12. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Roughly 30 minutes and counting until the Ryan announcement. I doubt we'll ever know the insider details - unless perhaps Peter Wilt chimes in - but I can't imagine the new league owners were happy with Ryan and the soap opera of recent weeks. It's one thing to say the league should not be dependent on a boost from the USWNT, it's another thing to see the USWNT as a negative drag.
     
  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes.

    USSF stood to gain more from a World Cup win.

    As did women's soccer.

    As did soccer in general.
     
  14. Anthony

    Anthony Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I personally think it was the Illuminati backed by the CIA.

    Did you ever note that you NEVER saw Greg Ryan and CIA Director Michael Hayden the same room together?

    This conspiracy goes WWAAAAAAYYYY deeper than you ever could imagine Ken.
     
  15. Sshhh

    Sshhh New Member

    Oct 25, 2007
    I'm new to women's soccer what is WUSA?
     
  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Former women's professional league that ran from 2001-2003. Women's United Soccer Association. Went under right before the 2003 Women's World Cup. It's being reorganized and relaunched in 2009.
     
  17. socfandan

    socfandan Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    Eastern Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am I missing something, or has mention of the 8th/TBA group of investors been notable absent since the start was pushed back to 2009? They were prominately included in the "original 6" announcements, with Boston and NJ being identified at teams 7 & 8.... now refences seem to be limited to 7 franchises in total for 2009?
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Supposedly they are prepared to go in 2009 with seven franchises.
     
  19. socfandan

    socfandan Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    Eastern Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what happened to Soccer Initiative LLC?
     
  20. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's Women's Soccer Initiative. That's the corporate name.

    From what I understand, they're down to the final three possible names for the actual league, only two of which have "Women's" in them and not all of which have "Soccer" in them.
     
  21. socfandan

    socfandan Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    Eastern Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccer Initiative LLC was the name of the 6th TBA investor group, not to be confused with WSII.

    " The six announced charter teams will be led by the following investors:
    AEG
    Territory: Greater Los Angeles, CA
    John Hendricks, Freedom Soccer LLC
    Territory: Washington D.C.
    Jeff Cooper, St. Louis United Soccer LLC
    Territory: St. Louis, MO
    Soccer Initiative, LLC
    Territory: TBD, pending its final decision to select a market

    Jack Hanks and Brent Coralli, Dallas Franchise Group
    Territory: Greater Dallas area, TX
    WGLSI, LLC and an additional investor TBD
    Territory: Chicago and Bridgeview, IL"
     
  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, yeah, you're right. My bad. Got my initiatives confused.

    The final ownership group was going to be in San Jose or San Diego, but may not happen at all.
     
  23. chapulincolorado

    Jul 14, 1999
    McAllen, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    So, if I am interpreting right your comment, it could come down to:

    Women's Football League
    Women's Premier League
    Football Premier League.

    :confused:
     
  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't even know if "league" is in there.

    Remember "National Soccer Alliance?" I have no idea what they'll call it, but supposedly we'll find out in the spring.
     
  25. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's no "league" in NBA (or WNBA for that matter).
     

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