The Refried Presidency: Trump V 2.0 Pretty Hateful Machine/Fossil Fuel Boogaloo

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Don't see this having negative impacts on Americans at all

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  2. bigredfutbol

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    Just selling sovereignty for a fee.

    God. Damn.
     
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  3. Kazuma

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    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
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    I'm confused, are you saying if Reagan made a comment like that he wouldn't survive or that he wouldn't survive Trump?

    If it's the former, possibly. He had a tendency to go on bizarre right wing talking points that his handlers had to make sure he'd stay on script. He also defended Watergate, but he also doesn't have the tone. It's possible he doesn't survive it. If it's the latter, I think he could. Much as I despise Reagan, he always struck me as having a way of just making people look silly. A guy like Trump thrives on negativity, Reagan was the opposite.
     
  4. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Make checks payable to Trump Industries
     
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  5. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
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    With a side of suzerainty. The New York trash-hauling background is still going to make an appearance.

    Nah, just cut out the middle-man, make them out to Cash
     
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  6. Kazuma

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    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
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    Years of media coverage and The Apprentice portraying him as some sort of genius businessman will do to that a lot of people.

    The thing I think is, The Apprentice especially gave him this air of wealth and how wealthy people act, when a wealth manager who was on the show said Trump wasn't even as wealthy as some of the clients he had. And given my interactions with some wealthy people, they're nothing like Trump.
     
  7. dapip

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    Or in Rubles.
     
  8. Pittsburgh Ref

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    da 'Burgh
    Da, tovarisch
     
  9. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    I mean really, who needs national parks and protected areas anyway?
     
  10. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Exactly... who wants all that tedious and unnecessary paperwork. Who needs the ag,
     
  11. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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  13. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    I can't wait for Elon to completely pollute wherever he is going to build his next mega battery factory or launch pad. It would be too bad if children born to MAGAs in those locations came down with horrific birth defects.
     
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  14. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    What Would Hayduke Do?
     
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  15. Smurfquake

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    Aug 8, 2000
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    I'm just glad it will be in Texas or Florida and not in California.
     
  16. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

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  17. yossarian

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    Umbro boots?? Pffff. I'd have more respect if he was wearing some Patricks.
    :D
     
  18. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    While I don’t disagree with the point you’re making…they’re not going to even need to do this. It won’t even go to court.

    The parents will be deported. The parents will be forced to decide to take their minor children with them or 1)turn over legal guardianship to someone they know or 2)turn over guardianship to the state. It won’t be the us government “tearing up families”…it will be the families themselves.

    Why go through the difficult and time consuming legal process of EO’s and injunctions and appeals in order to be cruel and awful to people when you can be just as cruel and awful and guarantee you will win in any court…anywhere in America.
     
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  19. Smurfquake

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    Sorry, it's been a couple of days, but this is not what Elon is going to do. He's not going to be satisfied with a "commission" that makes "recommendations" and has no actual power. On day two or three of the Trump administration, he's going to go to the General Accounting Office and demand a list of government employees and how much money they make. If whoever he's talking to does not provide them with this list, he's going to "fire" them - note that he won't actually have the power to terminate their employment, but he's going to say "you're fired" and then call security to have that person removed. (Woe to the security people who try to remove him instead.) He will eventually find a bootlicker who will give him the information he wants. Then, he's going to make a list of several thousand people and "fire" them all. The same process will occur - people will go "you can't fire me" but some bootlicker will have their badges disabled or something, and private security will be used to prevent them from accessing their workplace. There will be court cases, which (a) take forever, and (b) have a high likelihood of ending with a judge agreeing with Elon or getting appealed up to the Supreme Court (after years) who will agree with Elon and Trump. In the rare case of (c) a judge tells Elon to stop, Elon will ignore them, because the judge will not have the power to actually make him stop, and/or the judge won't have the balls to hold him in contempt and jail him.

    Former government employees who can't afford to not have a job for those years will have to find employment in the private sector. There won't be enough lawyers to represent everyone who wants to fight their unlawful termination, and people who can't afford lawyers will have to find employment in the private sector. There will be chaos, and the efficiency of government services will suffer greatly, but the Department of Government Efficiency is / was / will never be about government efficiency.
     
  20. Capt.Tsubasa

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  21. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    I volunteer to have Elon come to my office and "fire" me first. Let's find out how "hardcore" that little bitch is.

    Going to GAO for that list is exactly what he'd do. And they'd go --"Uh, we don't keep lists like that. Didn't anyone tell you how government works?"
     
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  22. Potowmack

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    He sold himself as a New York real estate mogul, but he wasn't. The Trump Organization was mostly a property management company. Trump burned his bridges in the '90's with legitimate lenders, so he couldn't get the types of loans needed to be a player in the NYC real estate market.
     
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  23. Kazuma

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    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
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    Then The Apprentice comes along and he has respectability again. I think if that show doesn't air, he'd have been a nobody, a cautionary tale, and a brief segment in some 80s nostalgia show.
     
  24. Smurfquake

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    Elon has that rich guy problem where nobody disagrees with him to his face. "yes sir, that Cybertruck is very classy, great idea sir!" The last person who said "no" to him was his oldest child when she came out as trans, and it bothered him to the point where he went all in on Trump. He really needs someone to laugh in his face and go "******** no, who the ******** are you again?"
     
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  25. Potowmack

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    I wonder how much the Apprentice had to do with his subsequent deals where shady overseas interests used him to launder money.

    Trump "owns" a bunch of golf courses, but he's almost certainly a minority owner fronting for silent partners with complicated ownership structures running through Malta or wherever. Golf courses are notoriously bad investments, unless you don't care about actually making money off them because you're using them as a way to get around Know Your Customer laws.
     
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