The Refried Presidency: Trump V 2.0 Pretty Hateful Machine/Fossil Fuel Boogaloo

Or a Supreme Court willing to reimagine the 14th Amendment, which is not at all unlikely to happen.

 

I guess if it was made retroactive then Trump couldn’t be president.

 

I was gonna say 'dollar store equivalent' but we can use that if you like

 

Why do people keep saying this?

Why doesn't he just write up an executive order making it so, find a nice friendly court to say it is in effect until the legal challenges are over, then get sued by the non-red states and maybe the ACLU until it reaches the Supreme Court, who are all in for the unitary executive?

 

I read the wiki entry for executive orders and their limits the other day and it seems to be a rather grey area or, at least, not as clear cut as I thought it was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order

But this is either simply a threat or just something about which he can create argument and controversy for no useful purpose. This way he's being stopped in his efforts to protect the American people by 'the establishment', 'activist judges' and 'the deep state'.

That can run and run

 

Have we ever said hello to it?

 

If we've learned anything useful about our government during the Trump years, it's that most of the "normal operating procedures" of our government aren't really very easily defined or enforced via law - it's mostly just lawmakers sortof kindof respecting the office.

Trump will continue to break that, and the Republicans are now following suit, and the Democrats are looking around at the broken pieces with no ideas.

And, like the Washington Post lack of an endorsement, this might just be one of Trump's plans - he makes a big deal about something that will be done in hopes that people will pre-emptively and voluntarily adhere. So, maybe people stop coming onto US soil in hopes their children can be citizens, and he can claim some precentage reduction in these things happening.

 

Hmm. I think you might be giving him a bit too much credit for long term planning there Although it's possible I suppose.

I thought it was more about him trying to get something that he knows he won't achieve so he can leverage it into getting something else.

 

Or he watched Starship Troopers and thought that was a great way to run things.

 

RFK Jr. has urged the guy that runs the dairy that has been hit hardest by bird flu to join the FDA.

https://www.latimes.com/environment...portedly-encouraged-to-apply-for-fda-position

 

Screen shots are the way to go, unless you like refreshing 7 times in hope that it will work

 

FYP

 

On the subject of MAGA vandalism, do you guys think Obergefell survives four years of vindictive Trumpy rule?
And if not, what happens to the folks already married?

 

Trump disgusts and offends the average French person on a level that is hard to articulate.
It's why even far-right Marine Le Pen had to distance herself from him, it was electorally costly for her to be associated with him.

 

It'll get overturned. I would imagine states refuse to recognize them and deny partners the benefits.

 

How would this work in practice though?

I legally get married to my same sex partner in California, move to Montana where I am suddenly no longer married?

Also stuff like tax benefits, inheritance rights? Those would become void by a move to a state that (re-)activates a gay marriage ban?

 

There's no chance whatsoever that Obergefell lasts four years. I'd be surprised if it lasts one year. I've no idea how it would play out if New York recognizes a marriage and Missouri doesn't. I'm not sure anybody does.

 

We could always leak the news that Obergefell is a German military rank.

On the NY-MO question above, and I'm embarrassed to say I can't remember...what was it like before Obergefell? I remember people living in no-gay-marriage states traveling to other states in order to get married, but not how things worked when they went home.

 

Simple answer... don't move to shitholes like Montana.

I suspect that's what will happen.

Those places will lose thousands of people they want and need because of some arcane and half-baked rule that they've allowed their right-wing to introduce.

Bluntly, even if you haven't got a same sex partner, would you want to move there anyway if that's their attitude?

We've had the same thing over here after brexit where we lost people because if people have a choice, they can go to somewhere where negative attitudes aren't as prevalent.

Of course, other places have their 'issues' as the right take hold there as well but that's another matter.

 

Montana isn't a good choice for this. Insert Idaho, Wyoming, or a bunch of Midwest or Southern states.

Texas and Florida would be a complete nightmare.

 

Isn't Montana one of the states with a dormant gay marriage ban?