The Refried Presidency: Trump V 2.0 Pretty Hateful Machine/Fossil Fuel Boogaloo

That was one of my beefs with the campaign. Not much I saw addressed Trump’s economic failures. And his $4.7 Trillion debt he left. That not a singe promise was kept or the millions who died of the Covid that was going to go away in 15 days, like magic. Etc. Etc.
The big aim obviously was to gain women voters but lost others.

 

I keep seeing this. And I have no reason to doubt it’s true. But do we have actual evidence that these performers were paid?

 

The messaging from Trump's camp on Ukraine, right now, is incoherent, to be honest.

 

As with 2016, I did, which is why I put my home up for sale in October so I can leave the country before inauguration. Unlike 2016, I did have some hope she could win, but I never truly believed she would. I saw it coming enough that I put my money where my mouth is, if you will.

It's been obvious for a while that a significant portion of Republican voters, especially white evangelicals, don't care about democracy. Hence the Russia-love and Hungary-love that has been evident over the last few years.

 

Let me rephrase: I’m a blue collar and as white as they come. Since I worked a 49 hour week at 15. 9 hour days and Saturday morning.
We made a decent life and are mortgage free in our retirement, in a pleasant home. Trumps message did resonate with me as the same total bullshit he spewed out last time. Why others accepted that shit is still beyond comprehension.

 

Welcome to his leadership-style, I see you haven't experienced it before

 

Now you are onto it. With the volumes of misinformation out there, and the media/pundits giving air to it, she was never going to be able to get her message out. It is much easier to spread lies than spread truth. As an analogy, I look at how evangelicals would spread misinformation about gays in the 80s and 90s and how hard it was for us to combat it - they spread lies and had the media infrastructure to do it, we had science but no platform to get the word out. They could convince large amounts of people at a time, we had to convince one person at a time.

 

All this Monday morning quarterbacking is not helping!

 

It’s cathartic.

 

He won the male Hispanic vote, didn't he? That's a demographic that trends more working class than their white counterparts.

 

With all the freeking lies and shite coming out of your repugnant leaders. And you don’t doubt that it’s true. Why? Because you want it to be true!!!
. Everything you’ve posted today has put you with what I said about half the country being gullible.

 

I've a fair amount of relatives who are blue-collar immigrants recently made citizens. They are feeling the pressure from increased immigration and they don't have as much saved up since they immigrated in their 30's. As a retiree you just don't feel the job market pressure. Again, all politics are local.

 

Correct. Most people are feeling that they survived inflation but they aren't feeling so positive going forward.

 

Another idiot who swallowed all Trumps shit.

the post mortem on The effects of lies and disinformation from the Trump team and Russian help. Will be far more interesting

 

This is what happens when you have an economy BY the RICH, FOR the RICH. And Boomers. Don't forget boomers. They already own everything, so they don't notice how much college and healthcare and stuff is. But EGGS!

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/inflation-chart-tracks-price-changes-us-goods-services/

Stuff you NEED is getting more and more expensive - healthcare, education, childcare, food, housing. That's generally because the generations that already HAVE these things don't care. I keep hearing about how my parent's generation "pulled themselves up by their bootstraps" and "didn't drink Starbucks" so they could buy a house. That's crap.

The stuff that people buy every day (TVs, cellphones, toys, clothes) gets cheaper, and this let people at the top "pretend" that inflation was under control and fine and that millenials were just whining. It wasn't until Covid made everything flat or go up a lot (food, new cars, furniture) that the "normal people" started to care.

Harris just paid the price for people finally realizing what people who have been paying attention to for the last 20 years know - the stuff you need keeps getting more and more expensive because there is more money supply and demand than stuff and all the wealth has been concentrated on the C-suite for decades.

 

Actually, more votes from me on Trump doing what he says he will.

I can only imagine what a 200% tariff on flat-screen TVs immediately prior to superbowl weekend will do to the Trump bros.

 

Lots of people here appear to be at the anger stage of grief. Hopefully, people will recognize that and not hold against each other some of the things that are being said. It's just part of the process dealing with this life-altering tragedy.