The Refried Presidency: Trump V 2.0 Pretty Hateful Machine/Fossil Fuel Boogaloo

As an originalist, I claim that the constitution only applies to the original 13 states.

Therefore, any Congressperson from any of those wierd "new states" can serve in Congress and as a Civil Officer.

 

Challenge accepted!

 

There's a cleaner fix. Looking at the moral heft of these exalted worthies, I think it's clear Article 1-6 is satisfied because they will be appointed to UNcivil offices.

Also, Noem is going to change DHS to Don't Hurt Snoopy.

 

My college roommate has a mid-high level position in the Trump campaign (basically running the operation in one of the swing states). His general impression is that there is a lot more organization this time around, and there should be less chaos at the start of Trump II. Their agenda is prepared, and they'll be able to fill positions much faster than last time. The people around Trump have spent the last 4 years planning for this administration.

It'll be interesting to see what they start with.

 

As far as the Trump's message to Latino voters it is the same since June. Repeats of Trump's proposal to give all immigrant college graduates a green card and calling Biden's June presidential order to reverse asylum as two-faced. The message is Trump cares about law abiding Latinos and the Democrats only care about your vote.

What is new, of course, is that Trump followers are reposting the videos about calling ICE on Trump voters and continue drilling down on the same idea that Democrats never cared for Latinos anyway. I am also seeing posts that NY has decided to shut down immigrant programs - I believe that news is false - but it continues with the topic.

The Democrat message also remains the same. The parole in place repeal is used as an example that Trump's policies will be even worse and more draconian. The claim is that if you entered illegally and you now have citizenship, Trump will take that away and deport you. They also point out to the Trump wants to end birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants. This one is really interesting for me because the response is that many Latinos just laugh about it and say - correctly - that it is impossible to get that past courts. For some reason, Trump gets a pass on that with many Latinos. IMO, the explanation is that Latino constituency has a cynical and transactional view of both parties now. They will vote what is best for their own personal situation.

So, in general, a wash because Trump is still not in office. The same messages that had a result of Latinos now being a split constituency. The only real change is the idiots that are targeting Latinos for Trump. That is resonating in a very negative way for Democrats. It'll probably end in the next week or so as Dems get past their feelings but it reinforces the cynical viewpoint.

 

I'm not a big believer in Trump's organizational abilities or his ability to stay on track. However, the Dems are essentially betting everything on "Trump is stupid and racist". They are setting the bar so low that if the administration is even mildly competent then they will be in big trouble.

As I posted on the Ukraine thread, the key person for the current Republican organizational capability is Susan Wiles. IMO, as she goes so will the administration go.

 

Agreed on Trump's lack of organizational skills. But, he's not really the one doing the organizing. He has a much more robust organization around him this time. Whether he derails what they've put together still remains to be seen.

 

The campaign showed a lot of signs of competency. The Democrats laughed at the Republican tactics but got their behinds handed to them even though they spent a lot more. Musk's PAC was a new situation but apparently they only spent 200 million. Add on that a significant portion of the campaign funds went to pay Trump's legal fees and you have to marvel at what was accomplished.

 

******** it. It had more to do with half the country being idiots than money.

 

For some reason, the Harris campaign was spending money on getting celebrities to perform at campaign events.

The post-mortem on her campaign will be interesting.

 

If that ends up being the Democratic takeaway from this election, they're going to spend a lot of time in the political wilderness.

 

I know you are bitter but in a democracy you need to tailor a message to the constituency that makes sense to them. The Republicans did a much, much better job this time around.

 

I was including some posters here. Trying to rationalize the un rationalizable

A Better job of lying to the gullible, it made more sense to them than the truth.

 

Have you seen Bernie Sander's scathing criticism of the Dem's message? All politics are local. You say "objectively the economy is great". They say "not for me". You then need to find out why they think that and respond to the fears? Dem's message was not enough for blue-collar workers.

 

We did volunteer and we did get out on the main junction to show support. the bitterness came after the lies and botts fooled the suckers.
I’ll recover, but will the country?

 

Such as?

From everything I heard during the campaign, she was doing very well. The campaign rollout, the debate, the interviews, the ads, etc. It seems turnout was an issue, as was appeal to Hispanics.

Whereas the orange Hitler-loving felon went on Univision and had a very poor performance, had rallies that were explicitly racist to Hispanics, etc. (And the data show, he won the same amount of white and black voters as 2020.)

 

Not if they learn to blatantly manipulate those idiots the way Republicans do.

 

I’m a blue collar worker. The repugnant message didn’t fool all of us. Like it did you.

 

The Republican ground game is of huge interest for political observers. During the campaign there were huge doubts about the use of apps and glitchy software There is still a bit of mystery on how the Republicans used their resources but what is not in doubt is that it was a very novel method (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/30/republicans-alarm-trump-ground-game-00181577).

https://www.wired.com/story/donald-trump-kamala-harris-michigan/

However, the results are inarguably positive. I don't think that the next campaign will outsource as much as this one did but what is certain is that legacy media is now a lot less influential. Apps, social media and data will be a huge factor going forward.

 

The only blue collar workers Trumps message really resonated with are white ones.