The Refried Presidency: Trump Hateful Machine/Fossil Fuel Boogaloo or Whatever Continuation

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  1. soccernutter

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    Emoluments Clause of Constitution bars president from receiving any gift from "any King, Prince, or foreign State" unless he receives consent of Congress. But Attorney General Pam Bondi (who received $115,000 per month to lobby for Qatar) says that Emoluments Clause doesn't apply to gift of $400 million aircraft from Qatar that will ultimately go to Trump presidential library foundation! As if using alter ego of library foundation is meaningfully different from giving it directly to Trump?!? White House says that Trump administration "is committed to full transparency," so let's see that legal analysis.

    I also wonder how many bugs are on the plane.
     
  2. Kryptonite

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    Ya know, I'm not sure Mr. "Fuck it. Release them all" should be speaking on fighting violent crime.
     
  3. soccernutter

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    Or that it was finally explained to him that his tariffs were not just wrong, but insane. And that they were falsely determined.
    He might also be hearing the news that a recession is coming based on the tariffs, and that he wants prevent that bad PR.
     
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  4. ElNaranja

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    I get the strange feeling DEI doesn't understand how trade works.
     
  5. dapip

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    It's not a feeling, and it's not strange. Most DEI posters don't understand trade, or the economy, or the constitution, or science, or politics.... (the list is pretty long)...

    They just want Trump to validate their bigotry, xenophobia, misogyny, and racism, and own the libs while he shreds our democracy.
     
  6. Cris 09

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    "Owning the Libs", has now become more important to them that the protection of the Constitution.
     
  7. Germerica

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    I mean when China has 4x our population and runs its economy and labor force under the principles of communism, they have an advantage that the US simply can't match without a counterbalance. Companies love cheap labor, and labor is cheap in China. This is not a new phenomenon, 18th and 19th century Europeans loved cheap American goods produced with slave labor, which is why they kept shipping slaves over here.

    Let's get things a little more in balance and if that means manufacturers start moving to the US or other countries, then that's a positive.
     
  8. roby

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  9. charlie15

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  10. soccernutter

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    Do you understand the economics concept of comparative advantage?
     
  11. Germerica

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    Given what I just posted, obviously I do. But I'm American, not Chinese, so I care about America and American workers, not China and Chinese workers.
     
  12. soccernutter

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    So then you understand why manufacturing is in China, yes? And, thusly, you understand one of the reasons why manufacturing is not currently in the US, correct?
     
  13. Germerica

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    Let's just say, as a Dodgers fan, I hear all the time from other fanbases how the league should make things more fair and not just be satisfied with the status quo.
     
  14. taosjohn

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    They weren't getting their way under the Constitution, so what good was it to them?
     
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  15. Kryptonite

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    The problem now is they think they're winning on the economy because the DJIA is up from a month or two ago.

    They don't understand net losses.
     
  16. Kryptonite

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    The Fart of the Steal.
     
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  17. Kryptonite

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    They really do think they won't get $5,000 iPhones when they're made in the USA for $40/hr.

    Or whatever the numbers are. The point remains.
     
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  18. soccernutter

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    You didn't answer the question.
     
  19. Germerica

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    The answer to your question is yes.

    Gotta say this was one of your poorer attempts at a message board gotcha.
     
  20. Germerica

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    Not everything has to be made in China. You do realize that, right? Some manufacturing can be reshored to the US (i.e. things that were originally here and have left), other manufacturing can be done in India or other developing nations. No sense in being so dependent on our greatest strategic adversary (and enriching them in the process). Just create a little balance and diversification.
     
  21. Sounders78

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    Or that the DJIA is still down 2,000 - 3,000 since early December.
     
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  22. song219

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    Biden propped it up just so it would look worse for Trump.
     
  23. soccernutter

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    What are the problems with bringing manufacturing back to the US?
    What kinds of manufacturing do you expect to return to the US? (You generalized in response to @Kryptonite )
    What time frame are you expecting this return?
    You understand that the CHiPS Act was not just meant to do this (with chips), but that it was actually starting, yes?

    You also know the economic soft power the US can use against China if manufacturing is there, right?
     
  24. diablodelsol

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    Next step in this Corruptorama will be applications for tariff refunds to those with big enough bags of cash.
     
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  25. Sounders78

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    Or "gift" jet planes!
     
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