The Refried Presidency: Trump Hateful Machine/Fossil Fuel Boogaloo or Whatever Continuation

look I can understand why you'd want to leave, but there's also a strong case to be made for sticking around and fighting back. your community is under assault, much of the progress people have fought for is being rolled back, smart people, academics such as yourself, are important to the fight.
point is, you had to make the decision that was right for you. the situation I'm in isn't unique to me, it's playing out in families all across this country. I don't have relationships with my conservative, in-laws, not really. and if it was entirely up to me, I would be done with them.
its not even hard to understand, and even if you think we should all just slam the door shut completely on any magas we once knew, we're all intermingled so its kind of a ridiculous expectation.

 

You'll survive if you eat fast enough. That's the important part

Do you have dissent to offer, are you angry that the post is accurate?

 

sorry mate, I've come to the conclusion that you have a screw loose, best to disengage, I think.

 

There's no need to announce your departure. This isn't an airport

mate

 

All of this.

Listening to my parents' conversations after work and the things they told me themselves were instrumental in shaping my distrust of conservatism, even perhaps before my teens. As I grew older, I began to realize how many other Black kids of certain parentage were given the same talk. You learned where to go, where not to go, who never to be alone with, that sort of thing. all in unison with the politics.

You don't grow up safely without this kind of upbringing if you're Black.

 

not departing, just not engaging with you, our resident racist.

 

if you're implying that I quietly go along to get along, you're just piling on and not listening.

 

AFAIC, you didn't need to announce to the forum that you weren't responding to me anymore.
BigSoccer is still not an airport.


,,,mate

 

I think some people here just don’t realize that most Americans are not deeply invested in politics like they are who follow the day to day of it all. We have all our lanes and some choose to be in the political lane and that’s how they construct their existence. And when they get so deep in the bubble they end believing they can’t associate with people who vote differently from them.

Like when we go out and about, the political views of the person serving our coffee or running deposits at the teller or changing diapers at our kids daycare does not cross our mind once.

 

I was hooked at the word "love". If someone loved me, they wouldn't bring White supremacists around my home, and they wouldn't want them around their own home, either. If we share a home, I figure we've had this talk, because we agreed to share a home and a life.

 

You're what's known as an anomaly, believe me. Politics wasn't on my radar until my early 20's. Most kids these days are way too distracted and not even really paying attention.

 

Yes, completely abnormal behavior for an American politician

 

Yep, it gets a little ridiculous. It used to piss me off to hear my BiL demonizing liberals, but the more extreme people on the left do the same shit and have their own silly litmus tests.

 

I don't think it's that unusual. When I was young, my parents would talk about what was going on in the world (vietnam war, hippie/cultural revolution, environment, civil rights, etc.) and while I didn't fully understand everything, it was pretty easy for even a kid to understand that it was wrong to treat Blacks (including some of my friends) in a far worse way than whites. My parents were college professors, and volunteered at the neighborhood recycling center (and all of us kids helped out, sorting cans, etc.). Some of the other volunteers could only be described as "Hippies," so I got a decent idea of what was going on.

My daughter who is 18 grew up hearing us talk about politics, the pandemic, Trumpism, LGBTQ+ rights, etc. so she has a pretty good sense for these things. She also has her own ideas, which is generally a good thing, rather than parroting back whatever the parents think.

 

What makes you think I haven't, repeatedly?

 

People just have to breathe a bit. One of the Hispanic legislators in CA who is a Republican was answering some questions on her IG the other day and someone asked who her favorite assembly member to work with was, and it was a Democrat and she posted a photo of them together looking like besties.

It’s quite possible to disagree and not demonize everyone who may have a political disagreement with you. It’s simplistic, lazy, unproductive, and probably depressing.

 

Might be different for Black kids, maybe they're all far more advanced in their political thinking at a very young age. As an old White dude, I will defer to you and our Black boardies on that. All the White kids I've known are completely oblivious to politics all through their teen years, at least.

 

Every family I know, regardless of race, that has homeschooled their kids has done it for religious reasons. I know of one White family that (told me they) homeschooled theirs (for religious reasons) briefly, and I cannot say that there wasn't anything creepy going on in that family.

The main reason my folks sent me to private school the first three years is because they did not trust the public schools yet (it was only 1969, so no reason to blindly trust). Unfortunately, some of the kids I went to school with are staunch Advys now (it was their school. My folks figured better some ill-informed Black folks than Whites at that time).

 

Most of the kids I knew growing up (through our teen years), me included, knew nothing about politics. Maybe we were all late bloomers, or maybe things have changed. I became student body president at my local community college in the mid-eighties, at around age 22, and my politics would still evolve quite a bit. I'd say around mid 20's I settled on many of the views I still hold.