The Refried Presidency: Trump Hateful Machine/Fossil Fuel Boogaloo or Whatever Continuation

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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    I guess Jews aren’t as smart as they’re supposed to be* if they expected more from Trump.

    Trump is a bigot about Jews, but I don’t think it’s in hateful anti Semitic sense. It’s more in the boy those people are good with money sense. He made some comment I think before he was president that he wants his accountants to be Jewish.

    *It’s just a joke guys!
     
  2. superdave

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  3. raza_rebel

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    Found the paragraph in question
    Texas officials question scaled-back Weather Service’s flood forecasts - but experts say the agency did all it could | The Independent
     
  4. rslfanboy

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    I lived in Del Rio for a short time during my Mormon sabbatical. They had a similar flash flood in the San Felipe Creek in 1998 that wiped out hundreds of homes and killed quite a few people. The town had those sirens, but they weren't functional when the flood occurred, and the radio station that was supposed to warn everyone was off air at the moment.

    Sadly, I did not understand at the time the amount of devastation that occurred there.
     
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  5. Potowmack

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    It's a view about Jews that isn't exactly antisemitism, but more like having certain stereotypes about them based on old tropes. I don't think Trump would refuse to hire a Jewish person, and he didn't seem to have any objection to his daughter marrying Jared Kushner and converting to Judaism.

    My dad is like that- he thinks of Jews as typically being good with money, and also tight-fisted. Which, to him, are things he considers to be positive traits that he tries to emulate.
     
  6. roby

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    So...nothing like the "Big Block Of Cheese Day"! :unsure:
     
  7. Deadtigers

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    You ever hear the phrase "jew me down on the price?"

    Trump is an old fashioned bigot. He thinks Jews are shylocks, blacks are lazy and bad with money, Asians are smart but shady. All the stereotypes about ethnicity he believes.
     
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  8. superdave

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    He even believes Germans are born fascists.
     
  9. Potowmack

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    First time I heard that phrase was when I moved to Michigan in high school.

    Yup, old-fashioned bigot is a good way to describe him. He basically holds Archie Bunker views of the world.
     
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  10. Knave

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    That's not what's going on here. Shylock is a well-established antisemitic trope not a positive attribution.And even the purported positive attribution has its roots in antisemitism.
     
  11. Potowmack

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    I know what Shylock means, and I’m sure so did Trump when he said it. But antisemitism, like other types of bigotry is a spectrum, not a binary choice.
     
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  12. InTheSun

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    It's the classic Archie Bunker episode, where he needs a lawyer and has the meathead read him some law firm names from the yellow pages. "Rubinowitz, Rubinowitz" he repeats, "and what was the last one?".
    Anyway, they send over the incompetent gentile son-in-law and Archie demands they "send a Jew".
     
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  13. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Right! The tapes had to be released and he still became an "elder statesman" along with Kissinger.
     
  14. Deadtigers

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    It's going to be wild when Trump dies and all of a sudden the press and conservative politicians are going to try and impose the old standards of behavior again.
     
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  15. soccernutter

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    Not necessarily.

    Officials in Kerr County, where nearly 70 people are dead from floods, and many others are missing, including girls from Camp Mystic, have debated the use of outdoor warning sirens since at least 2016, even as other Texas cities and counties adopted them to sound loud alerts ahead of floods and other natural disasters, according to a review by the Journal. Minutes of their public meetings showed an inability to get state and federal funds has been a delaying factor.

    Seems like it was a few factors, as is normal.
     
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  16. soccernutter

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    Old standards? From when? From pre-MTG? Pre-Trump I? Pre-Joe Wilson? Pre-Gronzalez? Pre-Rove? Pre-Ashcroft? Pre-"is"?

    The issue isn't really the politicians, it is the MSM. Trump has allowed them access and they treat it as a reality show.
     
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  17. Deadtigers

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    Well yes. When they try to go back to 80s and make affairs a big deal. News reporters treat this like sports coverage and the owners of the news don't care for real journalism.
     
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  18. soccernutter

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    And this is a bit off topic, but if y'all haven't ever seen a flash flood, watch this:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cgq7z93753ko

    2 minutes. 2 minutes from normal to massive flood.
     
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  19. Yoshou

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    Everyone blaming everyone.

    Trump is blaming Texas officials and, of course, Biden, for the issues. Abbot is blaming NWS for failing to identify the severity of the flash floods and local officials for failing to warn and evacuate local residents. Local officials are blaming NWS for issuing the alerts late at night while residents were asleep and taxpayers/state officials for failing to fund the necessary automated warning systems.

    Timeline of NWS warnings that started on Tuesday with NWS meteorologists warning of potential flooding. By Thursday afternoon the NWS warnings increased and included information like 3in of rain per hour expected and flash flooding likely. At 1am on Friday the "Considerable" flag was added, which normally triggers automated systems to send out texts to cellphones. At 4am, the most severe "Flash Flood Emergency" message was sent out.

    https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/s...oods/287-cbd38071-a303-468e-9806-e4009a54ec8a
     
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  20. Yoshou

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    One does wonder if the number of counties that Texas has is part of the issue here. While the idea of small, local governments is not, in itself, a bad idea, it does create funding issues and just the number of counties state and federal officials have to engage with.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2018/0...all-254-counties-texas-why-are-there-so-many/
     
  21. Deadtigers

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    The only believe in streamline and synchronized and Unified Government if it's under the fascist manifesto.
     
  22. superdave

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    As I understand it, wetlands help prevent floods and/or lessen their severity.

    I suspect Texas doesn’t protect wetlands.
     
  23. Pittsburgh Ref

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    Oct 7, 2014
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    Correct, wetlands are like sponges that absorb excess water volume and dampen the effects of flooding.

    Since the majority of the wetlands here in Texas are privately owned, the conservation and protection of them should be a concern for Texas landowners.

    Interesting post from a TX land broker. I think most places, lots of wetland would not be privately owned, but what do I know. Caught my eye in this case.

    Being from TX, this piece talks a lot about tax advantages, protecting your investment and all the voluntary things that landowners are able to do to help wetlands (oh yeah, Clean Water Act, harumph). In CA, the Coastal Commission would frog-march you from the hearing room if you so much as spit out an ice cube. Different strokes.

    So in sum, TX does address wetlands but the vibe I get is, they're a resource to be exploited rather than something with intrinsic worth and beneficial characteristics.
     
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  24. Yoshou

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    I'm not sure this is true, or, at least, a lot of wetlands are on private property. The difference is that some states require land owners to protect wetlands on their property, while other states take the approach that it is up to the land owners whether they protect the wetlands or not and, of course, everything in between. I have no idea where Texas falls on this spectrum, but without further information, it is impossible to say that there was even a lack of wetlands in the area, or if Texas state laws would have changed anything...
     
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  25. InTheSun

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    I briefly saw a report from BBC earlier and they mentioned that the Guadalupe river runs in part through some naturally arid areas. Having been through hill country a few times, I would say this is accurate. In this case, the effect of a flood is for the water to run through rapidly as the ground may be too dry to soak up moisture. Something similar happened in Spain earlier in the year in the Valencia and Malaga regions. So I agree, in this type of environment there may not be wetlands to protect from such events.
     

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