This and the Scally thread have to be the worst on BS with all the mindless career projection and speculation Sargent has been at Norwich what … a month? And he hasn’t become Lewandowski yet? I’m shocked.
Hell, at Josh current age....Lewandowski shockingly wasn't anywhere near the level of being the best striker in the world (hahahahaha!) and it would be taken the world's most incredible soothsayer to have any idea what was to come. At Josh's age- Lewy was playing in 1st division Poland for god sakes. He was sold to Dortmund in 2010 at a LATER AGE than Josh was just sold to Norwich- and inflation-adjusted at a lower amount of money! Dortmund was a mid-table BL side for many years....but then..... Lewy landed with the perfect club at the perfect time- Jurgen Klopp's 3rd year in charge- with tons of young talent and he transformed Dortmund and German soccer with his heavy metal soccer tactics. Dortmund won the league and Lewy played significant minutes but only scored 8 goals during his age 22 season. It was only after he turned 23 did Lewy really start establishing himself as one of the top Bundesliga strikers. Of course, Dortmund was one of the highest scoring sides in the league as well, so they generated a lot of chances. But taking nothing away from Lewy- it took a big leap at 23 and never looked back. BTW, he also benefited from 2 real fortunate circumstances. He would have landed in Blackburn in 2010 if not for a once-in-a-lifetime volcanic ash cloud, and in 2011, the lead striker at Dortmund got a major injury early in the season, so opened the door much earlier than expected for him. Where would Lewy be the greatest striker in the world if these 2 fortunate things had not happened? Hard to say. In all likelihood he would still be a very good...if not great striker, but the best in the world? Who knows? Luck does play a role. If you are curious about his international career- Josh has him beat so far. Lewy had 'only' scored ' 6 goals in 22 games for Poland up until he was 25 years old (and some may have been penalties). By comparison, Josh beats Lewy with 5 goals in 19 games (including one with torn hammy) by 21.5 years For any the inevitable naysayers- no I am not saying Josh will become Lewandowski. What I am saying you have no freakin' clue at this time, how good Josh Sargent will become, and it is actually pretty ignorant to even try to guess- based on all historical evidence. But this is all stats and evidence and such gobblygook. Let's get back to the baseless speculations based on no evidence, and the eyeball tests from a bunch of folks who never got anywhere near a sniff of a professional soccer set-up ================================================ In June 2008, Lech Poznań signed Lewandowski from Znicz for 1.5 million PLN.[11][14] Earlier that month, Lewandowski's agent Cezary Kucharski offered him to his former team Sporting Gijón, which had been promoted to the La Liga, Spain's first division, after ten years in the Segunda División. However, Gijón rejected him.[15] He debuted for Lech on 17 July 2008 as a substitute in the first qualifying first leg match of the UEFA Cup versus Khazar Lankaran from Azerbaijan, in which he scored the only goal of the evening in the 75th minute at the Tofiq Bahramov Republican Stadium. During his Ekstraklasa debut in the first game of the season, in a match against GKS Bełchatów, he scored a heel flick goal just four minutes after coming into the game late second half. In his first season in the Polish top division, he was second in the goal-scoring charts. Lewandowski finished the season with 18 goals in 42 matches.[16] He also scored in a 1–1 away draw against Wisła Kraków in the 2009 Polish Super Cup on 27 July, and converted his attempt in the won penalty shoot-out. The next season, he became the top scorer with 18 goals and helped his team win the 2009–10 championship.[16] English coach, Sam Allardyce, said that Lewandowski was about to join Premier League club Blackburn Rovers in 2010, but the volcanic ash clouds caused by the 2010 eruptions of Eyjafjallajökull which suspended all flights in and out of the UK, in addition to other financial worries, prevented the potential transfer.[17] Moreover, Lewandowski was also about to join Italian club Genoa, before president Enrico Preziosi decided to cancel the transfer.[18] Borussia Dortmund 2010–2012: Debut season, league and cup double Following press speculation that Lewandowski might move to one of a number of clubs,[19][20] he joined Bundesliga club Borussia Dortmund in June 2010, signing a four-year contract with the German club[21] for a fee reported to be worth around €4.5 million.[22] On 19 September, he scored his first goal in the Bundesliga to make it 3–0 in the Revierderby against Schalke 04; the game ended 3–1.[23] In the 2011–12 Bundesliga campaign, Lewandowski profited from an injury to Lucas Barrios and he was elevated to an ever-present position in the starting XI until the winter break. The striker responded by finding the net two times in Dortmund's 3–0 DFB-Pokal first round victory over Sandhausen.[24]
Well, Sargent should be well ahead of a 21 year old Mcbride. But the comparison between the two does nothing too really gauge Sargent as a player either way. Anyway, I just want to see Sargent get some startsin the premier league before I continue to judge him. Most of us are just basing our opinions on him off haphazard national team play.
We all want him to do well, but there are some of us that seriously should have received hazard pay for watching Sargent play 20-50 games at Bremen. Some of us literally watched him regress/not progress over two years. Some of us even took gifs and posted it here to make the point.
You made gifs!?! OK, that's it. Shut this thread down. Point has been made. I was arguing an epl team making him the highest transfer striker in USA history meant something, but that was before I knew about these gifs. Case closed.
Adjusted for inflation, Altidore's $11 million would be like 5 trillion today. I also consider Weah to be a better striker than Sargent at this point and he went to Lille for more. Ricardo Pepi will soon.
Have to disagree that he regressed. Progressed less than I would have liked, and lost some of the confidence he came in with, but he has better skills, is better physically, and better tactically than when he arrived at Bremen's sinking ship. There's a decent argument that he was their most important offensive player last year, and he certainly didn't start out that way there. The fear is that the Norwich situation has some of the similar qualities - attacker on a team that may struggle to stay up and generate opportunities.
I'm terrified what the debate will look like after Josh actually sees some EPL minutes... like 500 posts/1 million words an hour or something!
why? no one else does. we had apples to apples with hoppe last year and sarge guys discount that constantly. the only advantage sarge has is a completely unearned reputation and a fatter paycheck. dont get me wrong, im sure thats awesome for him. but that- like most things sarge-related- isnt based on actual soccer success.
Multiverse. Btw, are there aliens that dip into our dimension? )) Tyson disappointed me heavily. How off topic are we and how much do we love our mods
Funny how you are his main fan and you are also the only poster here who admittedly never watches any Sargent games.
Actually I've posted many links from many different sources here. I substantiate my opinions. Someone has got to post some nutritional value for a change and elevate the discussion beyond 'Well, I saw Josh play and here's what I think' (with no additional context provided) or 'he doesn't score enough goals'. I make the extra effort, because one can't judge players in a vacuum and there has also been so many poor, inaccurate and illogical posts here. I post a lot of information because there has been a ton of bad posting to correct. But if it really bothers you, you are welcome to put me on ignore or skip my posting. Then maybe we are both happy? Here's hoping Josh is healthy again for Watford. Would seem a great opportunity for Norwich to start to turn their season around and Josh to get some quality minutes and hopefully some quality goal scoring opportunities.
Josh better do something soon because he has no notable accomplishments to date. And he will be 22 soon.