The Random Thoughts About Anything, except VAR, Thread [R]

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  1. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
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    Finally LOGIC - no, they won;t see it, because they will have their 'effin' eyes closed .....

    jeez..... what IDIOTS can still believe this bizarrity ....
     
  2. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    The virus came out of China and bad animal husbandry. And the Buddha doesn't tell us what to do .....

    Two Questions:
    Are all the barbarities of humans (pre AD 33 approx) forgiven because people had no moral compass to be enlightened by???

    Do you truly believe that George W (another Christian) is gonna be okay in the afterlife because he truly belived that all that mayhem on poor innocents was necessary?

    If the answer to either of these two questions is yes, I'd advise you to flush your ideas of God down the toilet and ask yourself what particular species would tend toward this kind of binocular thinking? A God (being so venal - well, maybe it's Trumpie in disguise) or any, er ... human ....?
     
  3. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
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    I'd start with those two clowns who haven't been tested for days (and have presumably been meeting other people in the interim) who stand together - nearly on top of each other - in the same room (which they shouldn't even be in - for successsion reasons) each day...

    but in all seriousness, if you are going to start charging people with crimes like that, you'll have to indite Glen Beck, Bill O Reilly, Sean Laughaffity, et al for posing as a "News" media .... which is very definitaly a gross danger to the public ....

    Also the chief clown for constantly going on about this peril "fake news" without ever referencing a sustainable specific.
    All just as dangerous to the public good ..... IMO ...
     
  4. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    Trump continues to lie. Yesterday was another one of his favourite BS talking points ....

    Stilton, I assume you think all his comments are truthful. If not, why don't you call him out for lying, which is (last time I looked) a sin?
    • "There's a lot of fraudulent voting going on in this country," Trump said.
    • Facts: Multiple studies over the years have confirmed that there is no widespread voter fraud in this country. Additionally, Democratic and Republican state officials routinely oversee elections where millions of people vote-by-mail without systematic problems.
    • Trump implied that mail-in voting was politically biased, claiming that states where all residents vote by mail are won by Democrats.
    • Facts: Five states in the US vote by mail: Utah, Colorado, Hawaii, Washington and Oregon. Both of Utah's US senators and its governor are Republicans, and Colorado also has Republican US senator, Cory Gardner.

    • In an effort to support his claims of pervasive voter fraud, Trump cited a lawsuit in California involving conservative legal activist group Judicial Watch. "There's evidence that's being compiled just like its being compiled in the state of California, where they settled with Judicial Watch saying that a million people should not have been voting," Trump said.
    • Facts: That's false. There is no evidence for Trump's repeated suggestion of widespread voter fraud by non-citizens in California. Trump also incorrectly described California's legal settlement with Judicial Watch. The state made no admission of any voter fraud in its settlement.
     
  5. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
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    I'm more excited for his newest blond bimbo press secretary to get up on the podium and address the country with her racism, bitherism, and just outright lies. Should be popcorn worthy.
     
  6. bayred

    bayred Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    May 28, 2018
    Is suggest renaming this The Ranting Until We Finally Have Something Better to Do thread...
     
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  7. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
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    I think Trump is laying the groundwork for the coming election where if he loses he will say it's because of the voter fraud he warned us about.
     
  8. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    Good ol' Steph Grisham. More DUI's than press briefings. Only the best people for Trump!
     
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  9. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
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    Franklin Graham is a hate-filled authoritarian bigot. Calling him a nitwit was the nicest thing I could come up with. His version of Christianity is antichrist. All one has to do is cross-reference the sermon on the mount with Graham's views to see that.
     
  10. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
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    I wonder if Stilts is a dominionist. Many Trump sycophants are. Pence is one. Dominionists have a completely spurious notion of Xny that essentially says that they will use any means necessary to establish their version of authoritarian theocracy on the nation and the world. Theologically speaking it's a morally and intellectually bankrupt position to take that has zero scriptural basis.
     
  11. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    interesting - never heard of it. something to research - yayy!!!
     
  12. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
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    I blocked him for a blatantly racist post dripping with white privilege right after Trump was elected. Wise choice on my part.
     
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  13. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
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    Xny is shorthand for Christianity. Xn for Christian.

    (stuff I learned in seminary)
     
  14. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    thanks - just realized it after I posted. :)
     
  15. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    I have nothing against anyone being a follower of any religion.

    The only exceptions are those that adversely affect others or those that are hellbent on imposing their views on others.

    Guaranteed to lead to conflict, misery and death. History has taught us that.

    Live and let live ...........
     
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  16. bayred

    bayred Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    May 28, 2018
    OK Memo from the heart of Texas in the age of COVID. My town spans two rural counties west of Austin. Judges in both counties - you know both are conservative Republicans - have issued shelter in place orders and people are complying. But there is also a barely repressed undercurrent of fear- not of the virus but of the government snatching people’s rights away from them using the pandemic as a trumped up excuse. These containment measures have hit the nerve of underlying paranoia about creeping socialism and government control, good old Americana. I asked someone if they would rather be ordered to stay at home or die of the virus and they chose the latter. Really
     
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  17. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    There was an article I read about the upswing in gun purchases in the US.

    Half of those interviewed said they were buying guns because they were afraid of increasing government control. The other half because they were afraid the government would lose control.

    :rolleyes:
     
  18. bayred

    bayred Member+

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    May 28, 2018
    The answer to every question here is: get (another) gun.
     
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  19. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
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    Whilke you're at it, could you try to find out for me ....

    Alright, maybe not..... :)
     
  20. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
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    Well, that's a reasonable modern position. I generally hold it too. (However, as I've said before I don't accept that this courtesy should be extended to idiotic cults like the Moonies and Scientology.) However, human nature being what it is, in less developed (let's say, feudal and similar village nuclei societies - and through the long upward road out of that kind of restrictive life) the choice isn't likely to exist without exteme danger to the person thinking about proposing the choice, should he voice it.
    So, in that sense there is always something to be against in terms of religion, even though many more people in these situations need it psychologically to survive than those who don't. It been the great historical conundrum and vice-grip on human liberation whenever its been possible. But it maY also have been its saviour. We don't know..... we'll never know ....

    There is this to ponder though, if you like a little theological adventuring... One of the great(est) science fiction short stories......

    https://epdf.pub/harrison-harry-an-alien-agony78de57d8bd13fb8e63d5c98d2407ff7f48485.html
     
  21. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
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    What isn't certain to me though, is whether or not the large (but by now mostly benevolent) religions that used to be more restrictive and impinging upon people's natural human rights _ Catholicism, Eastern Orhtodox, Buddhism, would be likely to return to previous power philosophy if given the channels to forge down?

    I would hope not, because benevolent religions are a generally stabilizing good thing.
     
  22. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
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  23. burning247

    burning247 Member+

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    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
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    Interesting, I wish I remembered it.

    There are an alarming amount of evangelicals (the biggest hypocrites on Earth) who would jump off Sears Tower if he told them that God wanted them to. The same people who tried to tell us that Obama was the antichrist.

    I mean, we're a country comprised of many who have bought hard on the American exceptionalism/individual liberty/fear of government they hammer into our brains since day 1. A situation like this is not something the average American can really handle. Hell, I (a very open minded, enlightened American if I do say so) find myself wanting to yell "oh f uck you," every time I hear a lecture from an elected official or expert about how we have to stay inside or how they've closed all the parks; but I have to step back and know that it's for the good of everything. It's just so burned into our brains to be skeptical of authority that want to take our rights away.
     
  24. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    I've never seen or heard a reasonable or reasoned explanation of this fear that wasn't a worked up rant about unlikely scenarios.

    For example, I used to be friend's with a gun enthusiast who couldn't understand that if I was in charge I'd take away all military weaponry, but would not ever wish to take away a person's rifle, hunting rifles, shotguns or personal non-automatic pistols.

    He just couldn't fathom what would I be pushing from that position but that it would eventually have to be something more. Well, not with me, it wouldn't. But, such is the paranoia factor.
     
  25. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    BTW/ Burning24 -- you are a techie guy? Y/N? If Y i have a question....
     

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